From nobody Sun Jun 26 07:35:29 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79268681EF; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 07:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com (mail-ed1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LW2hT0QHCz4ZBy; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 07:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id e40so8988269eda.2; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 00:35:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZQUp25dhvJ0yDHpusFk+QFLhfdH1mvqjceedloNaoyQ=; b=R8DGgR/M6JBMjmdltFAFWvhPKcC2RJ19o7f/pF0C1BxSiiGWE8+XtN7KznHPXzAu4S S6pmi2OD6GAEkbRbx/20HaiVFWcOBSdGpQ2gKjAuVxxoXFS3Nj8yFzxNFBL9yp8H2FRP imsDpGHCvmlFzfEECDRMHutYfaY2bWTE336QiRH/1j4DFl1EUhOkXEstnFPic9d00nWG PBghMgD0LvMv8L+KVT7FG5lhb9frv+B1hqd6OhLBNae32MLRY/TroWwrG0VU9ylvbZ77 EY/PWhxRDGvS4WE4Gl8onSzXBlx/FbpJCQDH0XD9YcPs73hgxgE1Y9oMplw1eOX6R2qJ lE9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZQUp25dhvJ0yDHpusFk+QFLhfdH1mvqjceedloNaoyQ=; b=yIXpELTfT7C+5obd7QwC3ebn285h1mokrnWdJiKV4LsfJ15nN5Ty6g7zr+otVZIn3c ab9nE3c13O7clWq+8DqmvionqoP8YLeP115S/gYHgPL64tyswD1+g5TqBD1lVhCzMqfb Ru5t4yJichYwsz2gIWdC09iin4DQpzEUP1fu2vbgh1lkiYTAULMAYtdvpR3g91EbcBCl laZRXZcEo4POhZ+vbv3DMJvra3z1e4Zv4oXGXFB8q6lQc+vnsKlK5hZSD92BVHbJ0aeF C+e19kIcE5FxDtggawLnlUD3ROmHa9TK8jDbOISo61TNxB5LeWT3yfpgRvAlRkP7MuUR VtCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+MlkCdFWpV3YtwVf8Vs2C+VWcgtubZFi/mjG6XS1uSZvWgKLAH bTM9zvDHFXx2AWE/mx/zLcHjslskG4GdDmPkQNYYNLvel1JhJbl8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sslxIbZkIsYYJe/woUHZretFHFO7MtV5R+LoPCTh2Zr8bzJ4Si9/+xCYAciig6/oaApQ+C1SI6AeEZPBjKBYw= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:dac2:0:b0:435:76a2:4ebe with SMTP id x2-20020aa7dac2000000b0043576a24ebemr9494833eds.196.1656228930179; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 00:35:30 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab4:a183:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 00:35:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20220623030118.GA59423@eureka.lemis.com> <20220623060320.aad6a631.freebsd@edvax.de> From: grarpamp Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 03:35:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Posting netiquette: HTML, attachments etc. To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LW2hT0QHCz4ZBy X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="R8DGgR/M"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grarpamp@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::52a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grarpamp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::52a:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc,freebsd-questions,freebsd-current]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-doc/blob/main/documentation/content/en/books/handbook/eresources/_index.adoc > > FreeBSD Handbook: Appendix C: updates and corrections > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=264754 > > I'm glad that HTML is supported. No, people should not be sending HTML emails to lists. Consult history of email netiquettes to discover the many why's. > Also, I want support for things such as PNG. Attachments are not necessarily against such netiquettes, but rightly tend to be administratively size limited. > What is the possibility of getting the/a "netiquette" link in > the FreeBSD Mailinglist footer that is already appended to all > the messages? There is no such footer appended to the lists, because they're bloat. Their aims usually better done at first via signup, in quarterly, and via the occaisional involuntary and accepted friendly cluebat. > we are dealing with real people working with the email > clients available to them in 2022 Same arguments was made in 1982 1992 2002 etc, and the netiquette won validity for good reasons and is still taught trained and disciplined. September and 2022 are no reason to abandon oneself from those responsibilities rites and rituals of computing. Incapable and misconfigured email list software and archives and search are separate issues from the sending netiquette. Yes all mail since inception of FreeBSD is supposed to be integrated and available in raw form here... rsync -nHaxi bit0.us-west.freebsd.org::FreeBSD-mailarchive/ ...for all the good reasons mentioned previously on the lists. Though it needs maintenance work, and also more published on the list info webpages / handbook that were noted earlier.