From nobody Tue Apr 26 19:16:31 2022 X-Original-To: doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EB8199BB12 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Kns7M3tNBz3rNX for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CC5C14FDA for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 23QJGVx7046228 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:16:31 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 23QJGVRg046227 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:16:31 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 263476] Document how to build a full release Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:16:31 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: mark@cloudbsd.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: doc@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1651000591; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=bQHQKgIjEesbB12gn8OjgFX7WrZXdXzjKUbiP5NtDjI=; b=jBxzCcZiulpOYqnwDID6Q3Jl9H03S3p7EuK+eNwjCfF8/Mt2tCtVxhiICxsAagEgO5FFDD EmCoV5tv59uTNBci6+JYVa8k+wlaqeCXSKhukRTlHCfBnvgLe1k06IH3X3xzQVo0UVFusQ I5kBopt6lljMdM2CP/ODwDqE82AGAc7rvsWi5y9DlD3HtIoHHXfCQpGA+nG9uUkj/5zfCv H5d+2pGfh6u9QeCY0lDgSf37wR6rbwwT10DX8a9IW0ganQPdI5yC3gGoBlP2Sh7muivWRn On+dQnFa34eqrtWHWOItdknsHvPOqhceUwxWWzfxxsT+Da3PSqoNimf9FRUVew== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1651000591; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Bgw+h+GZzDmFfQiEUcudR2vOHYxfkptJ+OeRcctm4Zz4kEwvRiLpgbajT6mVf4lSgbIbjz fJzYigE9R8qy45ikc9kzHkVljnWXfJ0RtW3ai2Ksdbv8pLctPO68dE4JqSOP6wXe5nX3Hc FnZaPgu3Gzj94VigEQbaVR728PgOWlHnobV/FG1EOZF5+Ny0Kvl9/iYa/HsdORVlL7syup pVH6jerGi/MPBdxzh/vr2OUXs5fFXjbyjlFH4bgrvg+M2pMdiAcb+MjKWIJbdg+IZa3OVQ 12ZOLTVXfkFigWWRC1wyJmVx1wvDxKVsgWqjQgyj8lGs4gTrmx9iDmaVKnnkoQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D263476 --- Comment #3 from Mark LaPointe --- I will start off by stating that "read the man page" really isn't a proper = line of thinking here. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need or desire for a handbo= ok. The handbook is hand holding, and I think that hand holding that is of valu= e. I should not need to state this. Yes, I've read the man page for release(7), at the same time I think that t= he handbook doesn't come full circle and is incomplete without a section on ho= w to build a release.=20 There is a section on building ports, there is a section on customizing a kernel, but no section on building and possibly customizing a release. Now this section in the handbook doesn't need to be something in great deta= il, just something to give a taste. Then make references to the developers and other handbooks for people to dig deeper. I think that this is a missing section in the handbook, and an opportunity = to add value to the handbook. Now there are other ways that custom images could be accomplished (vm image templates), but I am also looking at how GhostBSD, helloSystem (Based off t= he late FuryBSD's build script), and other release derivatives are created and seeing that there is a gap and thinking that they could be done better, and that this area needs more attention, and quite possibly some work to have a better solution within the release building process. Adding this section for use in custom deployment environments, with just en= ough information on how to make a custom release image with extra packages insta= lled by default, like with some of the cloudware images (that may also be a feat= ure request to expand), or a more tailored release that has more kernel features beyond the GENERIC configuration, or removes features that are of no use, l= ess than GENERIC/LINT, but more than MINIMAL kernel configurations. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=