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To: "rotaechojunk@gmail.com" , freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.95 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.960]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[frame.work,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[frame.work:s=google]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[frame.work:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Z9YnK71k6z3vn1 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Hi, sorry I was only subscribed to the digest of this list and can't reply to the correct thread. > Howdy! I've been lurking, missed this last desktop meeting and hope to be on the call for the next month. Great, I'll be there, too! I'm a software/firmware engineer from Framework responsible for many of the recent systems. > https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/freebsd-on-framework I imagine for the laptops certified (13 then 16) a generalized playbook or "package bundle" would install the general stuff to make it useful for a desktop? Please note that literally the first sentence on that page is "FreeBSD is not currently an officially supported Operating System". We're a small team, building a lot of different hardware and don't have the capacity to fully support FreeBSD. However, I realized that FreeBSD already works very well, so I started this repository as a way to track what's working on which systems and what's missing. > Are some of the Frame.Work / FreeBSD groups collaborating together at > all there? Just curious. Yes, occasionally I invite a couple FreeBSD people to our Taipei office, hack on some things and let them try out the new hardware. I would very much welcome external contributions, I cannot maintain this for all systems and combinations of our growing product pool. Also I'm not a heavy FreeBSD user, I have contributed a couple fixes, but I'm better suited giving advice and helping out answering questions. > I do believe if FreeBSD could get a solid support for a few key laptop players, it would help it's adoption and exposure a great deal more. I absolutely agree, you can see that the FreeBSD foundation has the same idea: https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/supported/laptops.md Cheers, Daniel