Re: 16-CURRENT non root users unable to use sound/beep anymore after upgrade to a4ed783cee2a

On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 13:46:05 +0200
Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> writes:
> > Please habitally confirm UPDATING. I believe it should be
> > a good habit.
> 
> No, pkgbase users shouldn't need to read UPDATING.  We need to fix
> config file merging.
> 
> DES
> -- 
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org

Agreed. But the work may be hard and need time to implememt.

As far as keep on using diff3, which compares "line level",
this doesn't seem to be fixable. Would need "field level"
comparison and merge.

What I can imagine for now is:
  Keeping database for "managed" /etc components that records
  the file is a script (like rc.d/*) or database (like group,
  master.passwd, ...). Maybe informations for data structures
  including delimiters would be needed to be stored for this purpose.

  etcupdate to be modified to read the above-mentioned database
  and merge scripts only, passing others to another program.

  The additional program treats files passed from etcupdate
  as record and field based database, add, remove or modify
  anything other than that local admins can modify.

  This means, the program needs to ignore user passwords,
  configured shells for anything other than to-be-switched
  on master.passwd (as in csh to sh transitions but the user
  locally changed it to, say, zsh or something else),
  and adding new group to group (this time, adding audio)
  need ignoring configured users.

And anyway, IMHO, manual intervention cannot be avoided,
as etcupdate or additional programs cannot know which user
to be added to newly added group like audio, unless blindly
adding all users there. Otherwise, things may be more complexed.

So, my current conclusion is "UPDATING should be read even for
pkgbase users at least until the above is addressed".

Not sure who can, and at which timing, achieve it, unfortunately.

Regards.

-- 
Tomoaki AOKI    <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>