Re: Something seems weird at main-n287304-8a14fcd23a20

From: Guido Falsi <mad_at_madpilot.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2026 12:52:53 UTC
On 7/8/26 14:18, David Wolfskill wrote:
> In-place source-based update from:
> 
> FreeBSD 16.0-CURRENT #626 main-n287257-849a51ac8371: Tue Jul  7 11:55:43 UTC 2026     root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64 1600019 1600019
> 
> to:
> 
> FreeBSD 16.0-CURRENT #627 main-n287304-8a14fcd23a20: Wed Jul  8 11:08:41 UTC 2026     root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64 1600019 1600019
> 
> seemed to be uneventful.
> 
> But then, after having run "make delete-old-libs", I tried to use scp to
> copy some files over to my Web server (for reference); the copy started,
> then stalled (without actually copying anything), and eventually timed
> out.  This machine uses a wired NIC (em(4)), which has been ... boringly
> reliable in the past years....
> 
> And then a laptop (that I was updating in parallel, and which uses a
> wireless (iwn(4)) NIC, exhibited similar (the same?) symptoms.  And in
> its case (as well as another laptop), it claims xdm is running (as it
> should be), but the screen is either blank or black-on-black.  Using
> Ctl-Alt-F2 gets to a login prompt on ttyv1, as usual.
> 
> I just tried using scp on another (smaller) file, which worked.
> And a third file, which started, then reported "scp: Connection
> closed" without actualy copying anything.
> 
> So... I just set up an odd little test: I copied /etc/rc.conf (1062
> bytes) to /tmp/test (& chmod u+w), then:
> 
> freebeast(16.0-C)[1] foreach i (`jot 10`)
> foreach? ls -lT test && scp test albert:/tmp && cp test{,1} && cp test{,2} && cat test{1,2} >test
> foreach? end
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 1062 Jul  8 04:59:42 2026 test
> test                                          100% 1062     2.7MB/s   00:00
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 2124 Jul  8 05:02:44 2026 test
> test                                          100% 2124     2.5MB/s   00:00
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 4248 Jul  8 05:02:45 2026 test
> test                                          100% 4248     3.8MB/s   00:00
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 8496 Jul  8 05:02:45 2026 test
> test                                          100% 8496     8.3MB/s   00:00
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 16992 Jul  8 05:02:45 2026 test
> test                                          100%   17KB  20.4MB/s   00:00
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 33984 Jul  8 05:02:46 2026 test
> test                                          100%   33KB  30.5MB/s   00:00
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 67968 Jul  8 05:02:46 2026 test
> test                                            0%    0     0.0KB/s - stalled -
> 
> Then I tried again, making "test" smaller (by stripping the full-line
> comments), so it started at 667 bytes.  It got as far as the 21344-byte
> copy OK, but stalled on 42688.
> 
> OK, so then I had the notion to use ktrace to see where it was hanging:
> 
> freebeast(16.0-C)[44] ls -lT test*
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 42688 Jul  8 05:09:45 2026 test
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 21344 Jul  8 05:09:45 2026 test1
> -rw-r--r--  1 david wheel 21344 Jul  8 05:09:45 2026 test2
> freebeast(16.0-C)[45] ktrace -di scp test albert:/tmp
> test                                          100%   42KB  24.5MB/s   00:00
> freebeast(16.0-C)[46] scp test albert:/tmp
> test                                            0%    0     0.0KB/s   --:-- ETA^Cfreebeast(16.0-C)[47]
> 
> Right: so it *works* under ktrace.  Of course.  OK; I think I'm out of
> my depth here: anyone have a clue to offer?
> 

Hi,

I'm experiencing the same with head 8a14fcd23a201944f3eb5086403d10cfe1fc128f

I don't have any clue (except the ones I already rules out)

I'm almost sure this happened recently though, since it was working 
yesterday with head from a few days ago.

I'm also seeing graphic glitches using tmux via ssh to that host that I 
have never experienced, so I guess they could be correlated.

-- 
Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>