Re: wifi-tui , a new package for FreeBSD 15.1

hello i wasn't talking about ai assistance in general, i was talking about producing code using ai which is commonly referred to as vibe coding, which leads to hallucinated code if not reviewed properly, you wouldn't expect such hallucinations from human written code so it does change about how one would go about reviewing code, sure there is no need to be rude about it, i completely agree on that

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On Monday, 08/17/26 at 11:25 Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

> It is cruel. Full stop. Using LLM doesn't change that an app must be yested and vetted. It doesn't excuse rudeness.
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> Also using an llm isn't necessary vibe coding. I've produce a large amount of high quality with claude assistance in various ways. Vibe coding has extremely negative connotations and no real definition so it's not a useful characterization to have a useful discussion. So in addition to being rude, it doesn't tend to promote thoughtful dialog.
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> Warner
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> On Sun, Aug 16, 2026, 9:30 PM <polyduekes@proton.me> wrote:
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>> it's not cruel imo, an application like this needs to be tested extensively and have mandatory large set of unit tests, which themselves seems to be vibe coded as well,i am not fully against vibe coding but i realise the amount of care that needs to go in reviewing a vibe coded project properly is very high, so whoever is going to review it needs to be aware of that burden
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On Monday, 08/17/26 at 08:52 Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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>>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2026, 8:42 PM Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On Aug 16, 2026, at 7:31 PM, developers@atlanexis.com wrote:
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>>>>> On 2026-08-17 02:55, Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2026, at 6:46 PM, developers@atlanexis.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Good Morning everyone
>>>>>>> I'm working on a new package to ease the configuration of WIFI for FreeBSD, and my current computer doesn't support FreeBSD 15.1 , in the dmesg the iwlwifi is loading without issue , but after login to the system it is not working, have anyone faced this issue previously
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>>>>>> Was this project vibe coded? If so, I have an hourly rate for making vibe coded projects work.
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> -Enji
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>>>>> Greetings Enji,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes this was actually coded with Claude Agent
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>>>> Hi,
>>>> I was half-joking about the vibe coding hourly rate early, but in reality, I wasn’t joking at all: I (personally) don’t have the time to help someone debug and get a vibe coded application up and running for free. Maybe someone else does, but I wouldn’t necessarily expect that.
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>>> Do you really need to announce that to the world? Seems like a needless, cruel dig.
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>>> Warner
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Enji
>>>>
>>>> PS Have you seen https://github.com/shazow/wifitui ? Looks like this project is trying to accomplish what you’re trying to do with golang. It already has working Linux and macOS support, so adding FreeBSD support (hopefully) will achieve whatever you were setting out to do.