Re: wifi-tui , a new package for FreeBSD 15.1

>It is cruel. Full stop. Using LLM doesn't change that an app must be
tested and vetted. It doesn't >excuse rudeness. Also using an llm isn't
necessary for vibe coding. I've produced a large amount of >high quality
with claude assistance in various ways. Vibe coding has extremely negative
connotations >and no real definition so it's not a useful characterization
to have a useful discussion. So in addition >to being rude, it doesn't tend
to promote thoughtful dialog.


There's a worse attitude than that. At least he's dropped the mask.
What about all those developers who simply ignore tools produced by AI ?
They pretend that no one has ever presented those AI tools,they don't
offer help,they don't make themselves available. They stay in the shadows
and don't advance development and you don't even know their names.
This is the worst behavior.



On Mon, Aug 17, 2026 at 7:56 AM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

> It is cruel. Full stop. Using LLM doesn't change that an app must be
> yested and vetted. It doesn't excuse rudeness.
>
> Also using an llm isn't necessary vibe coding. I've produce a large amount
> of high quality with claude assistance in various ways. Vibe coding has
> extremely negative connotations and no real definition so it's not a useful
> characterization to have a useful discussion. So in addition to being rude,
> it doesn't tend to promote thoughtful dialog.
>
> Warner
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2026, 9:30 PM <polyduekes@proton.me> wrote:
>
>> it's not cruel imo, an application like this needs to be tested
>> extensively and have mandatory large set of unit tests, which themselves
>> seems to be vibe coded as well,i am not fully against vibe coding but i
>> realise the amount of care that needs to go in reviewing a vibe coded
>> project properly is very high, so whoever is going to review it needs to be
>> aware of that burden
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On Monday, 08/17/26 at 08:52 Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2026, 8:42 PM Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) <
>> yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2026, at 7:31 PM, developers@atlanexis.com wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2026-08-17 02:55, Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2026, at 6:46 PM, developers@atlanexis.com wrote:
>>> Good Morning everyone
>>> I'm working on a new package to ease the configuration of WIFI for
>>> FreeBSD, and my current computer doesn't support FreeBSD 15.1 , in the
>>> dmesg the iwlwifi is loading without issue , but after login to the system
>>> it is not working, have anyone faced this issue previously
>>>
>>> Was this project vibe coded? If so, I have an hourly rate for making
>>> vibe coded projects work.
>>> Thank you,
>>> -Enji
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings Enji,
>>>
>>> Yes this was actually coded with Claude Agent
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I was half-joking about the vibe coding hourly rate early, but in
>>> reality, I wasn’t joking at all: I (personally) don’t have the time to help
>>> someone debug and get a vibe coded application up and running for free.
>>> Maybe someone else does, but I wouldn’t necessarily expect that.
>>>
>>
>> Do you really need to announce that to the world? Seems like a needless,
>> cruel dig.
>>
>> Warner
>>
>> Cheers,
>>> -Enji
>>>
>>> PS Have you seen https://github.com/shazow/wifitui ? Looks like this
>>> project is trying to accomplish what you’re trying to do with golang. It
>>> already has working Linux and macOS support, so adding FreeBSD support
>>> (hopefully) will achieve whatever you were setting out to do.
>>>
>>

-- 
Mario.