From nobody Tue Aug 26 09:38:16 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cB2fB2qFdz65JwD for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cB2fB2Dt5z3qkL; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756201106; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zABCf+3nlijvaqP4nx8uFF2czaTVE7hKy+YiCsqKnnw=; b=A0461tMdKSTjUfGA3i70zAMMK0Fp8Yly2Tilg7v5IjXSaQviilw4VAlzQmnGxV46FVTrgG gLSf9OEyo8Nly725HlvBWsIjgLvlnGoQIOyigwPKhczDFM6EWmK23fWCVefzpfuaWjxSU4 qaCx67BwRu5Zu4DTONSLpppllUvcO+HzTOpsJLIoyjcofQkJt6BfIB/nYjP+wbYU4PvK1w fhaI1sITx/mbZ0C2I7N5ZKCa5Sfa0LpaI4kCjPGYUD6ajxp2h5wNi2qoAzB7Ln9h5UcZ9L Bw+gyN3OtlBCTYXoyqtYhBbV/66x4S932hejNe1sXORZ0+vMY+gjiPfPG6OabA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756201106; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zABCf+3nlijvaqP4nx8uFF2czaTVE7hKy+YiCsqKnnw=; b=FC37WIrruspEnMcbr5UEp00lYPoJeUFag4bYNP1OOIQf0sp+hfcpXyq+aoh2H3ikdGB5Ex +r0NsJXFQrJtDLrEPXo1MxAucaDaKEc68pECFUI7UOfH0sQ8KECHAWqG5kzxMXoEvQlE8e J03aD72BMQVOYOFOJEbhjuRoXqdRHIGEVKH4RSN/+zgOuY2/mtcGpdYK8mDtFmLVKfgAzo jQqh/JecG0oHLiNXz9VFTHXj6HgNzflayBriYTl6yke6oKvUkRwqgzmXHAg4/27l3zle8q 7HsJgGn1YwUbpMddYTLsEf1g6PRtQ0m+KXeXkLx2DN6hdA/YE3xWF3gEa3D3/Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1756201106; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=xZEQBppis9gDFST0n4Yv0FLTKWz7438s/cQouzB7DXgKbdSFju0v4Pfp0grKmTmOQOVqWD Xemty+VTga+ng07mXQTo4qKuZGw7vWpdldXcKt6To5dFoKFtEGmuFyXz8daBP5cAVG1IpR pquzIT7QwBRE02Od9Eu6AGKOD1aDvjdCN4tP12hR+0ydKnKZqWPsJCZM4KYC7Kn0RRmrBQ fGxZBL9sNltZ2Pv78dei4FNjRpAOoHOulZP2M5BzpWbS5ojGSCZwypFuGcVBu2A0bVXZLu TysE3PnSPlccyksjoOTHM4V3JxPbmkitIrrQsgyNKSW7JDLB8dRS2h3tgOgunA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from francois.localnet (aclermont-ferrand-653-1-222-123.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.14.66.123]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: olce/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cB2f91kv0zNsx; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) From: Olivier Certner To: Dag-Erling =?UTF-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= Cc: Warner Losh , Kyle Evans , Alexander Leidinger , Marcin Cieslak , Xin LI , Current , Gleb Smirnoff Subject: Re: UPDATING stuff Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 11:38:16 +0200 Message-ID: <6031679.8T7jmnknE8@francois> Organization: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <86a53mv3xg.fsf@ltc.des.dev> References: <2r579os7-29n7-890r-9210-s3s1n4r0s4qo@fncre.vasb> <4075052.kAAoriTUSa@francois> <86a53mv3xg.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4249332.O2WMGSuNBG"; micalg="pgp-sha384"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --nextPart4249332.O2WMGSuNBG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Olivier Certner To: Dag-Erling =?UTF-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= Subject: Re: UPDATING stuff Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 11:38:16 +0200 Message-ID: <6031679.8T7jmnknE8@francois> Organization: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <86a53mv3xg.fsf@ltc.des.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 > Have you considered that perhaps your point wasn't as well > made as you think it was? Yes. I still think it was reasonably clear. I rather suspect(ed) that your misinterpretation in part comes from the fact that the mail that started this thread was a rant on a breakage after updating -CURRENT, but since then the conversation has broadened, which is why I asked if you had properly digested the relevant mails. -- Olivier Certner --nextPart4249332.O2WMGSuNBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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