From nobody Sat Dec 14 14:21:41 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Y9T0x61q0z5gHxt for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-f177.google.com (mail-il1-f177.google.com [209.85.166.177]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Y9T0x1jx4z4v3V for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-il1-f177.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-3a9cb667783so22266735ab.1 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 06:21:53 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1734186112; x=1734790912; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=t9hEpezzzQc8t1bXIQo62AW1Dle6wfov9feN6Rm7YUE=; b=CaapVzg/FroGk8guMxDJK39A76WM3yOQFjcWo7DkAEb6jpsyY1sYpmnJqqx5qsBUzw VavrPQWZHh2irnQ77luXGLAfP9lgGG4BCLoPvAwDA7FxB4jviE7lLHrDMTpgJg4RlpfW I4gEEfzx+aoljwuJ5VPl+efgpM6P26nk956f7Kgd6IeAdIL9/GX+a4oIbejB75+pknA+ 8jo488FGjWCTGSw0YjImc4E5HQ/uguljrwB9nihif0z+RqL1vGf3bX7y9VarrL5o1lyE XQe+3/UszIKgdHe430TBpE5YOaaYfxbd3q6xCB2Nf1HOLX5n41To2msSy0PypMTr+G2s 8o/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy9IBWYv7JLo5KsEDzgTbrMWVtsA6TqPrRJZw0ESSxFtvFOPqKw CVpcI0aMePX8iz3omlxNYuQMiEDbycMMYJzd4CBiYFa/VqEktXcb4U21lhXHz6LWEj2KcBFarKh RZH05eC2nLkmP/3NzsKt4xuJlQsx8tA== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuVWCpZIOianaaPbSCdrlogMBAr7Uf25VAGdTGvBNJcP9O8vLCEdBOi8VdUt7S L2WDVFFWAclsFVHKOUnEwK2uylXeZm6//TLJzKQ86fBSv6SxEgO/Z2n+4R2mDoPm6wFMX6Dte X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFiN6CAbNVyXSamG5TQ01CoRewiDPnGDuFKzr4RN0e1TL08AG60LH3Yu7VKXFVQ/tBHZJaAsd615iH9Z5/aCsg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:168a:b0:3a7:7ad4:fe78 with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-3aff88b85bfmr62720885ab.19.1734186112340; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 06:21:52 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Switching release media dist sets to .tzst (tar + zstd)? To: Mark Millard Cc: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Y9T0x1jx4z4v3V X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 at 19:42, Mark Millard wrote: > > I tend to use https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/*/*/*/*/*.txz > for crude bisecting without needing to do builds. > > Are you saying that such will no longer be a possibility? (This is > not a which-compression-style question.) With pkgbase these distribution sets are not used by the installer, so they will no longer be required for their original purpose. It may be that there are a sufficient number of other use cases (like yours) that we still build them anyway, for some time. I would imagine most use cases can also switch to pkgbase packages, though. If it's different kernels you're looking to test it will be straightforward to use the kernel packages instead. > I've also used the likes of the below with kgdb to look at reported > backtraces from problems that have been reported --for versions of > FreeBSD that I do not have a boot environment for. (Not wanting to > do a normal install on other media and to boot/configure it --just > to look around.) > > http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/14.2-RELEASE/kernel.txz > http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/14.2-RELEASE/kernel-dbg.txz > http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/14.2-RELEASE/src.txz > > (But there is no equivalent for patch revisions of *.*-RELEASE 's .) > > http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/13.4-STABLE/kernel.txz > http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/13.4-STABLE/kernel-dbg.txz > http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/13.4-STABLE/src.txz > > Similar question for those: no longer to be possible? The same applies to these ones - they won't be needed after moving to pkgbase, but I imagine we could still build them if they're being used for other purposes.