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Slipped through the cracks... Building test kernel now and will push if it succeeds and boots. Warner On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 4:36=E2=80=AFAM Michael Gmelin wr= ote: > > > On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:55 -0600 > Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:06 AM Michael Gmelin > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600 > > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > > > > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default= it > > > > > > differently on stable > > > > > vs > > > > > > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more ver= bose > > > > > > form, which isn=E2=80=99t the default). > > > > > > > > > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, > > > > > but I would say that it is much easier for someone who knows > > > > > that there is a default to be changed to change it, than it is > > > > > for someone who does not. Therefore, if the information is not > > > > > useful to someone who does not know how to get rid of it, then > > > > > it should default to not being displayed, IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to > > > > the old behavior. > > > > > > > > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging > > > > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems. > > > > > > > > > > Did this ever happen? I just installed a fresh 13.1-RELEASE > > > production system (non-INVARIANT kernel) and it seems like SIGINFO > > > still outputs kernel stack information. > > > > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D35576 for those who wish to weigh in. > > > > Warner > > > > > > Hi Warner, > > I just installed 13.2-RELEASE, seems like this was never MFCd (it is in > main, but not in stable/13 or releng/13.2). TBH, I could've checked > myself back then (it's so easy to forget to MFC). > > Cheers > Michael > > p.s. Learned about it by hitting ctrl-t to check if freebsd-update on my > slow test machine is actually alive :D > > -- > Michael Gmelin > --000000000000f7229305f9b5969d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Doh! Slipped through=C2=A0the cracks...=C2=A0

Building test kernel now and will push if it succeeds and boots.

Warner

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 4:36=E2=80=AFAM M= ichael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>= ; wrote:


On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:55 -0600
Warner Losh <imp@bsd= imp.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:06 AM Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600
> > Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >=C2=A0
> > > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >=C2=A0
> > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer = wrote:=C2=A0
> > > > > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reas= on to default it
> > > > > differently on stable=C2=A0
> > > > vs=C2=A0
> > > > > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer= the more verbose
> > > > > form, which isn=E2=80=99t the default).=C2=A0
> > > >
> > > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to b= e different,
> > > > but I would say that it is much easier for someone who = knows
> > > > that there is a default to be changed to change it, tha= n it is
> > > > for someone who does not. Therefore, if the information= is not
> > > > useful to someone who does not know how to get rid of i= t, then
> > > > it should default to not being displayed, IMHO.
> > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels bac= k to
> > > the old behavior.
> > >
> > > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a= debugging
> > > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems= .
> > >=C2=A0
> >
> > Did this ever happen? I just installed a fresh 13.1-RELEASE
> > production system (non-INVARIANT kernel) and it seems like SIGINF= O
> > still outputs kernel stack information.
> >=C2=A0
>
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D35576 for those who wish to = weigh in.
>
> Warner
>
>

Hi Warner,

I just installed 13.2-RELEASE, seems like this was never MFCd (it is in
main, but not in stable/13 or releng/13.2). TBH, I could've checked
myself back then (it's so easy to forget to MFC).

Cheers
Michael

p.s. Learned about it by hitting ctrl-t to check if freebsd-update on my slow test machine is actually alive :D

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Michael Gmelin
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