From nobody Sun Mar 20 14:43:49 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC9A1A1141C; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KM0qr1GTxz3Fpv; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1647787432; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=z2pkBDLlfo5j2hVtSrU0SelbAs1WwE0TbSA5p/p3I0M=; b=giaq+apwbGCpTT5G5Fa7CX0/Mfm8Fuplelf8UMilNNJ+wtzF1jM4SZsduZWXQQVtlT+R/D W1HDI2W43X2EcXgyvRXkLL/GGtS0gRWVSML491WnTwGiX7xXSfhMb3hKSbiOrgpPCZIOx8 hNA24YOza/7BLKxudQchbon1PoEKvZSBx6iZhnAArZOQYtrNTSDQ1exgTiHakmxnDxovPv ZhJY/cOEAI9Y/UV4Y9CrHOdHnKBoBDpgpQEZAb9o8R9JWxWHUOitXoD5RaB94HiOLWPy1E lMOzE8L3iNbAs403K1NxtqLMw1wQsGA12t9Xxum3ZtHUe+3+O7hLyQbsao15Qg== Received: from smtp.theravensnest.org (smtp.theravensnest.org [45.77.103.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: theraven) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05D12E8A8; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (host86-134-184-31.range86-134.btcentralplus.com [86.134.184.31]) by smtp.theravensnest.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3EF22F627; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:43:50 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) Subject: Re: Deprecating ISA sound cards From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <89c73d2114c1c7f8b5877e7174178a23@bsdforge.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:43:49 +0000 Cc: Ed Maste , freebsd-stable stable , FreeBSD Current Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <04DBD89A-A857-4790-BE3B-C3B90AD563EC@FreeBSD.org> References: <89c73d2114c1c7f8b5877e7174178a23@bsdforge.com> To: Chris X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1647787432; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=z2pkBDLlfo5j2hVtSrU0SelbAs1WwE0TbSA5p/p3I0M=; b=C9k/3AdZvoI3ameEed7I1qWS82CfFiUa6PMDEw6ZojrE3kjo87u90E2GD1z724WWZyvKp8 n5UUegz0LWiVfQ3GKOBMXLLuRP0UNj9M3phKmdxpk7hbv+/X/DMSGNiIt1cZ0uR2BMlSxr //D9m1IXoLS5dQuZW/DeyAXaeGRBmafFbQWdh+Z00scmPGZw856Np4RIvzWgxEAk9Lwz1v yMlmeEElGiv9kLgw+3+Qsw3+Jj564rlkvYW4cmonZrWKedyfPF+qzCj/k23xpboamlEgnt depQrn1DbbWP7aNUe3/MRCkOXqjaTKaz6UznICeAV/XHNZEPj+wAUsYk5mobLA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1647787432; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=rO2XeUejrd1qHthlpTiny1R1yb0wHAj1Ox9F+IOSOMTqjWalOU4Q9rtYmYQsGIpmNe7ikY po0b2SO9zoyNnWJAZ0+yeIK+kvgX7/VnrJE9fNC91PCmkvR6z5J7k0RUgTI4lZaCB4chTY pXdIpQs5JcHnmvcmQ6C9LldlDMSxMrxevAbEJll2fgjI1PLpkUnUhprhe5G/81jlKjBcqT A/j9JL7ksXGTJqvFSX3LkJCopu+ghCBijmkfOPPPuaYmvae9peyEvd77yjMkMxZTym3OpY JtabNo11XTWdFtwy9lcdHgxsdWVP2b0bEPYGyK2gXTO+j1vcpBH+u0brKAxVNw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 19 Mar 2022, at 21:24, Chris wrote: >=20 > On 2022-03-18 09:08, Ed Maste wrote: >> ISA sound cards have been obsolete for more than a decade, and it is >> (past) time to retire their drivers. This includes the following >> drivers/devices: >> snd_ad1816 Analog Devices AD1816 SoundPort >> snd_ess Ensoniq ESS >> snd_gusc Gravis UltraSound >> snd_mss Microsoft Sound System >> snd_sbc Creative Sound Blaster >> I have a review open to add deprecation notices: >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D34604 >> I expect to commit this in the near future, then MFC to stable >> branches and remove these drivers from main. Please follow up if >> there's a reason we should postpone the removal of any of these >> drivers. > This only hurts from a nostalgic perspective. Those GUS cards were = incredible! > I have a board running freebsd that has 2 GUS cards in it running Exactly my reaction. You can tell you=E2=80=99re old when drivers are = removed from the tree for mainstream hardware that you never owned but = wished that you could afford. David