Re: Posting netiquette: HTML, attachments etc.

> On 26. Jun 2022, at 09:37, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 
>> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-doc/blob/main/documentation/content/en/books/handbook/eresources/_index.adoc
>> 
>> FreeBSD Handbook: Appendix C: updates and corrections
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=264754
>> 
>> I'm glad that HTML is supported.
> 
> No, people should not be sending HTML emails to lists.
> Consult history of email netiquettes to discover the many why's.
> 
>> Also, I want support for things such as PNG.
> 
> Attachments are not necessarily against such netiquettes,
> but rightly tend to be administratively size limited.
> 
>> What is the possibility of getting the/a "netiquette" link in
>> the FreeBSD Mailinglist footer that is already appended to all
>> the messages?
> 
> There is no such footer appended to the lists, because they're bloat.
> Their aims usually better done at first via signup, in quarterly, and
> via the occaisional involuntary and accepted friendly cluebat.
> 
> 
>> we are dealing with real people working with the email
>> clients available to them in 2022
> 
> Same arguments was made in 1982 1992 2002 etc, and the netiquette
> won validity for good reasons and is still taught trained and disciplined.

Trying to stop people from using UTF-8 is futile. Also, quoting various arguments from different people without context is bad style - I gave very specific examples, including the fact that a lot of email is written on mobile devices where people don’t have control over many aspects of how things are sent and I argued which parts of netiquette could/should still be followed given the realities of today and where we need to relax if we want to have communication happen on our mailing lists.

My answer here is an example of that - there is no reasonable way to follow any line length limits on a phone and it also automatically chooses the typographically correct UTF-8 characters, even though I would prefer to use ASCII - but there is no way I’ll change every single "‘" to "'" manually or disable the features that make typing on such a device an acceptable experience. Just won’t happen.

If your email client and/or your desktop can’t handle UTF-8, it’s time to fix your setup.

-m

p.s. Is it really necessary to have this discussion on multiple lists?