Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root

> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:34:58AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On 9/22/21 1:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
> > > 
> > > For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be confusing
> > > as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne shell
> > > compatible interactive shell: zsh, bash, or variant of ksh.
> > > 
> > > Recently our sh(1) has receive update to make it more user friendly in
> > > interactive mode:
> > > * command completion (thanks pstef@)
> > > * improvement in the emacs mode, to make it behave by default like other shells
> > > * improvement in the vi mode (in particular the vi edit to respect $EDITOR)
> > > * support for history as described by POSIX.
> > > 
> > > This makes it a usable shell by default, which is why I would like to propose to
> > > make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE (not MFCed)
> > > 
> > > If no strong arguments has been raised until October 15th, I will make this
> > > proposal happen.
> > > 
> > > Again just in case: THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL TO REMOVE CSH FROM BASE!
> > 
> > I think this is fine.  I would also be fine with either removing 'toor' from the
> > default password file or just leaving it as-is for POLA.  (I would probably
> > prefer removing it outright.)
> 
> HardenedBSD recently removed toor. No one has complained (yet?). A
> small Twitter poll[0] showed that 85% of people who responded do not
> use toor.

A truely disastisified customer does not complain, they simply
go some place else for there products.  Be carefull in what you
believe silence to be saying.

> 
> [0]: https://twitter.com/HardenedBSD/status/1415781911063056389
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Shawn Webb
> Cofounder / Security Engineer
> HardenedBSD
> 
> https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/raw/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc

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Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org