From nobody Thu Sep 09 09:31:03 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CEA17BABD1 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H4tzZ0HMPz3PKV for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.theravensnest.org (smtp.theravensnest.org [45.77.103.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: theraven) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD42223DAB for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.202] (host86-148-130-214.range86-148.btcentralplus.com [86.148.130.214]) by smtp.theravensnest.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 340D62C973 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 10:31:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: -CURRENT compilation time To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <2cfb912a-618b-9f06-9cef-d2fe1d78fe97@FreeBSD.org> <20210908105236.1abb8f9a@ernst.home> <746cf2d1-0192-a55d-c3f8-ac7fc7120b47@FreeBSD.org> <20210909080446.d223e9e16b90b5600f962757@dec.sakura.ne.jp> From: David Chisnall Message-ID: <4b5b1ae0-9fa3-ad80-9bd0-9802270e104b@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 10:31:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210909080446.d223e9e16b90b5600f962757@dec.sakura.ne.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 09/09/2021 00:04, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > devel/ninja/Makefile has USES= python in it, so it maybe require python > to run or at least build. You could probably remove that line without anyone noticing. Ninja uses Python for precisely one thing (or, at least, did last time I looked): There is a debugging mode that will generate a visualisation of all of the dependencies in the project and run a web server that allows you to view this visualisation in your web browser. In about 10 years of using Ninja, I have used this functionality precisely once, and that was immediately after poking the code to find out why it had a Python dependency, discovering this mode existed, and looking to see what it did. Nothing on the build paths depends on Python and Ninja doesn't require Python to build itself. David