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[100.16.224.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y8sm2215073qko.36.2021.10.28.08.26.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 08:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 11:26:42 -0400 From: Shawn Webb To: Ed Maste Cc: FreeBSD Current , freebsd-stable stable Subject: Re: Deprecating smbfs(5) and removing it before FreeBSD 14 Message-ID: <20211028152642.ejvwewkztewotln4@mutt-hbsd> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD X-PGP-Key: https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/blob/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="brkcv3d7hvmd7n7w" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Hg8YJ0pwHz4VNb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --brkcv3d7hvmd7n7w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:44:56AM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: > The smbfs(5) filesystem supports only the obsolete SMBv1 protocol, and > I propose removing it for FreeBSD 14. I know the CHERI folks have been > using it but they plan to migrate away from it. It was broken for > months before they fixed it, so I suspect nobody is using it on > contemporary releases. >=20 > I have review D32707 (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D32707) open to add > this deprecation notice to the man page: > The smbfs filesystem driver supports only the obsolete SMBv1 protoco= l. > smbfs and userspace counterparts smbutil(1) and mount_smbfs(8) are n= ot > present in FreeBSD 14 and above. Users are advised to evaluate the > sysutils/fusefs-smbnetfs port instead. >=20 > A similar notice would be added to the smbutil and mount_smbfs man > pages, and manu@ suggested having the userland utilities emit a > warning when they are used. >=20 > I am interested in comments, objections, or reports that anyone is in > fact using smbfs. >=20 It seems that smbfs might be used with some level of frequency in virtualized environments. I wonder if providing a 9pfs client would be a good step in helping deprecate smbfs. 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