From nobody Wed May 26 14:50:57 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF78ABF23CA for ; Wed, 26 May 2021 14:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from slim.berklix.org (slim.berklix.org [94.185.90.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "slim.berklix.org", Issuer "slim.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fqv6361fXz3Lxn; Wed, 26 May 2021 14:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p4fc4c1f5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.196.193.245]) (authenticated bits=128) by slim.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 14QEpH2I007956 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 May 2021 16:51:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 14QEpHpf092400; Wed, 26 May 2021 16:51:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 14QEov8j007524; Wed, 26 May 2021 16:51:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <202105261451.14QEov8j007524@fire.js.berklix.net> To: postmaster@FreeBSD.org cc: Lucas Nali de =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magalh=E3es?= , jake h , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com/jhs/ User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 26 May 2021 07:34:10 +0200." Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 16:50:57 +0200 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fqv6361fXz3Lxn X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jhs@berklix.com has no SPF policy when checking 94.185.90.68) smtp.mailfrom=jhs@berklix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33824, ipnet:94.185.88.0/22, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[94.185.90.68:from]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.196.193.245:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jhs]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[berklix.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[94.185.90.68:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,FreeBSD.org]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > > On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h wrote: > > > I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via > > > this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your > > > phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth. > > > Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me? > > I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some of them just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this list; also from freebsd-hackers@ and ports@. > > postmaster@ is aware of the problem, we do not yet have a clear-cut > solution and we're investigating. > -- > pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ? I'm on most lists & also seen much spam lately. Changing Mailman list configs to only allowing postings from subscribed addresses could dump nearly all spam; (I'm a Mailman admin elsewhere ). But @freebsd.org has prefered open lists for near all lists. Best only for the initial fresh- after- install- questions@, IMO. Mailman can also input from a spam phrases block list, though I haven't much used that on lists I run, as subscriber only block near all. Normaly the @freebsd.org anti spam mechanisms protect both lists & non lists. List back end responses to eg isp@ & hackers@ have recently migrated from Mailman to Mlmmj, I guess that shouldn't directly affect spam protection ? but it'd be interesting to know what advantage the migration might bring @freebsd.org ? ( Though I couldn't migrate most lists I run from Mailman to Mlmmj, as many lists I run are mostly non techs, incompetent with anything beyond click & fumble. Command lines of Majordomo & Mlmmj impossible for them ) Cheers, -- Julian Stacey http://berklix.com/jhs/ http://stolenvotes.uk http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/mail/sorbs/ Unreliable spam black list extorter.