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[165.227.238.234]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k7sm2152604wro.8.2021.05.21.06.36.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 21 May 2021 06:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (horror [local]) by horror (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 051f6f75; Fri, 21 May 2021 14:36:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 14:36:50 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Conrad Meyer Cc: Michael Gmelin , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Reducing SIGINFO verbosity Message-ID: References: <20210520180155.3e23500e@bsd64.grem.de> <20210520185917.GL14975@funkthat.com> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azc+bHeMH0SyLMoA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FmnhP4rTMz4rF8 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] --azc+bHeMH0SyLMoA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default it differ= ently on stable vs > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more verbose form,= which > isn=E2=80=99t the default). I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, but I would say that it is much easier for someone who knows that there is a default to be changed to change it, than it is for someone who does not. Therefore, if the information is not useful to someone who does not know how to get rid of it, then it should default to not being displayed, IMHO. Ceri --=20 That must be wonderful! 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