From nobody Tue Jun 08 11:15:26 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC2F7CCC8 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.evolve.de (mail.evolve.de [213.239.217.29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.evolve.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FznjJ3B47z4TYY; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e40ff29e; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:15:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=grem.de; h=date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=20180501; bh=oAwJxKde OjqMBPINHwn2UgCJ3Z8=; b=cQoM24CIegRdXkNtM5iDQJJF0kJE6fOmBxhizWDu R+1WuYMaCfqr0BQT9mR4sAGMSJXfRuvhnE8lrgIg75v2PTeJxwM4i4JE8mZZbBzd 216gifVpMnZ8B/QgfDkGb/vDt/etTZ3tUknYMoo3rdubxsfYwroqCZpgyVA4M7qw 441kTORWclfqux6VEB1cJauktZtM4RUaI+kJHv8GR3e3RSP7PwEs1VzCuFzO26yf FclQ5KsEuyYvHQNCJOLu+viKZx7voDTwKwj0VLraTaNpGWDQlBlNHrPC5ubx8NYH NjVw4pLxARzcg+VW9NTQAfzfLvUDf8sEUkZlEYSNvW+M8Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=grem.de; h=date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=20180501; b=s0 RYl7Cv70Q9aIwiHhqD3DUzb/ykI3IhDI9EAdASb7OfcvjDAABo++cAw9ERlk//jS rrvBp9Tho0ubge4/3fNt/ao31vc8JpuZ6+IvUe1TOuwOp3cC1d50xAcHfTca6ZfN V8gZn3xic3uxA0wXW1mdueU30JPXuZajzB+tSktjz9n+hhUPUxKrA6kYq5Citwnr tZgEFjmv4qOCGiVsfnNAMblm+P5guE9Jc+xHBfbvKSWi40MEH+SBmQdaqnSVqjPL 8cBsQhEZ/EUnsGBAjHV5TAE0Fb7JL3Xu3J5QdZXmaj7PYa6uXdVfTbi/Ac+UhHJE 1381p9F6GwGoE2dKkz1Q== Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id e7946567 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-CHACHA20-POLY1305-SHA256:256:NO); Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:15:26 +0200 From: Michael Gmelin To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: Mark Millard , freebsd-current Subject: Re: What happen to mailing list archives? Message-ID: <20210608131526.36b494ad@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: <20210607203520.ez47pfjey6evr65w@aniel.nours.eu> References: <0E72BE08-BC5A-41F8-8048-C5E8ADE947AF@yahoo.com> <20210607203520.ez47pfjey6evr65w@aniel.nours.eu> X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FznjJ3B47z4TYY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > > On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard wrote: > > =20 > > > Baptiste Daroussin wrote on > > > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 : > > > =20 > > >> What has happended: > > >> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly > > >> with redirection and so on. We patched the new archiver to > > >> produce the same file names has pipermail > > >>=20 > > >> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand > > >> edition in the past, we we decided to move to plan B which is > > >> what is happening now. > > >>=20 > > >> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the > > >> migration date under the pipermail directory and have the new > > >> archives created in the archives directory. > > >>=20 > > >> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The > > >> new archives receives in their index a new link to point people > > >> to the pipermails archive if looking for older archives. > > >>=20 > > >> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails) > > >> during a window, of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow > > >> traffic aka the one which didn't received any email since the > > >> migration ended up with an empty "archives" directory (aka a > > >> 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has > > >> been installed there. > > >>=20 > > >> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been > > >> transformed as readonly, this will be done in the next couple of > > >> days =20 > > >=20 > > > It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet" > > > month, such as, (at the time I write this): > > >=20 > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.h= tml > > >=20 > > > does not show at least (Date view specific example): > > >=20 > > > =E2=80=A2 Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of Folders > > > ] > > > =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from > > > mailman's time ] > > >=20 > > > when there are prior months available in > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just: > > >=20 > > > =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from > > > mailman's time ] > > >=20 > > > when no prior months are available there. > > > =20 > >=20 > > Looks like there are missing months. > >=20 > > Using freebsd-hackers as an example: > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html > > shows the oldest month being "May 2021". > >=20 > > But . . . > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/ > > shows the most recent month being "September 2020". > >=20 > > So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing. > >=20 > > Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . . > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html > > shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC". > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date= .html > > shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020". > >=20 > > So there are about 2 more half-months missing. > >=20 > > Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar, > > some not. =20 >=20 > This missing month are being populated right now Will historic links still work though (so that old references work and current google results are ok)? Just stumbled over this one: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jail/2017-March/003360.html Cheers Michael >=20 > Best regards, > Bapt --=20 Michael Gmelin