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In-Reply-To: <0E72BE08-BC5A-41F8-8048-C5E8ADE947AF@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 00:30:46 -0700 Cc: freebsd-current Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0E72BE08-BC5A-41F8-8048-C5E8ADE947AF@yahoo.com> To: Baptiste Daroussin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fz4mC1J1xz3tbc X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yahoo.com header.s=s2048 header.b=n1rrlD3e; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=yahoo.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of marklmi@yahoo.com designates 98.137.69.206 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=marklmi@yahoo.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Reply-To: marklmi@yahoo.com From: Mark Millard via freebsd-current X-Original-From: Mark Millard X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard wrote: > Baptiste Daroussin wrote on > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 : >=20 >> What has happended: >> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly with = redirection >> and so on. We patched the new archiver to produce the same file names = has >> pipermail >>=20 >> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand edition in = the past, >> we we decided to move to plan B which is what is happening now. >>=20 >> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the migration = date under >> the pipermail directory and have the new archives created in the = archives >> directory. >>=20 >> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The new = archives >> receives in their index a new link to point people to the pipermails = archive if >> looking for older archives. >>=20 >> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails) during = a window, >> of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow traffic aka the one which = didn't >> received any email since the migration ended up with an empty = "archives" >> directory (aka a 404), a file with explanation and redirection to = pipermail has >> been installed there. >>=20 >> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been = transformed as >> readonly, this will be done in the next couple of days >=20 > It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet" > month, such as, (at the time I write this): >=20 > = https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.html >=20 > does not show at least (Date view specific example): >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of = Folders ] > =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from = mailman's time ] >=20 > when there are prior months available in > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just: >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from = mailman's time ] >=20 > when no prior months are available there. >=20 Looks like there are missing months. Using freebsd-hackers as an example: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html shows the oldest month being "May 2021". But . . . https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/ shows the most recent month being "September 2020". So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing. Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . . https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC". = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date.ht= ml shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020". So there are about 2 more half-months missing. Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar, some not. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)