From nobody Sun Jun 06 08:53:49 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C53595CAB6 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 08:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FyVfT11wPz3sr9 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 08:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from aniel.nours.eu (unknown [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:3a4d::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EBDB7203AA for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 08:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E720072233; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: What happen to mailing list archives? Message-ID: <20210606085349.dx54zcw2q5pirjwn@aniel.nours.eu> References: <20210605232834.GA3082@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 05:43:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 5:29 PM Steve Kargl > wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 01:04:46AM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > p.s. If you go to https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo, click > > FreeBSD-net and then "Archives from mailman’s time", you get to a list that > > brings you to https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/. So the > > old archives are still reachable that way. (I still find the > > docs.FreeBSD.org/mail page to be confusing). > > > > > > > > > > There isn't an "Archives from mailman's time" link on freebsd-numerics. > > > > Hundreds of emails from me are now gone or sufficiently hidden that > > I cannot find them. More importantly, Bruce Evans often replied > > with reviews of libm patch's I sent the list. Those reviews and > > his detailed analysis of the libm code are now gone or sufficiently > > hidded that I cannot find them. > > > > > Bapt was working on this stuff today. He said something about the archive > regenerating with the new software on IRC.. > > Warner > What has happended: plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly with redirection and so on. We patched the new archiver to produce the same file names has pipermail Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand edition in the past, we we decided to move to plan B which is what is happening now. Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the migration date under the pipermail directory and have the new archives created in the archives directory. All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The new archives receives in their index a new link to point people to the pipermails archive if looking for older archives. this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails) during a window, of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow traffic aka the one which didn't received any email since the migration ended up with an empty "archives" directory (aka a 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has been installed there. Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been transformed as readonly, this will be done in the next couple of days Bapt