From nobody Thu Dec 16 07:45:16 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256FD18F3E28 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 07:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JF40N74QYz3jj2; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 07:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.88] (unknown [195.64.148.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: avg/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A2C326EB8; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 07:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <7de18fab-ddc3-b17c-c066-4e6b291072af@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:45:16 +0200 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 Thunderbird/91.4.0 From: Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: CURRENT: ZFS freezes system beyond reboot Content-Language: en-US To: FreeBSD User Cc: Alan Somers , FreeBSD CURRENT References: <20211212102032.08af9689@jelly.fritz.box> <20211215185509.310fc873@hermann> In-Reply-To: <20211215185509.310fc873@hermann> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1639640725; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=xk8VkEui/oxIsQBHBT6G19C3ljEp80L4MAyd3i2a0L4=; b=RVpyG8LIs18WogWYBGSN9jT7bFplMrguUxGfkPwDB/PclSbrKzM/j6r0AE3EHzZL9zXnTt 2ocvWitp6qRrFPndpMKpGB9EV+q+Jg0IAsNeLOlFT5PcUMxSUYt8JN8jEZA0jw3ofwU9+U PhHiF9goD8D950I538jfhDDPEU2Uh9mOQ6Z4QB/XklbyXMdCGICXMX9Dk/WOgJcfQ/7LKu I5DgTtLc1pYfhpHLCG7jXyhlmRvhUmd6qdws4AEoWWuwf2q3uXpqROYgyKx0xwHkTUXAbu SwdqVvkjSON+Q2/kz/DoanPM+mZh1ry8uxuQkDaEWfb1i6TSjCqV0CoDRtr9Uw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1639640725; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Hni9MukryhIPMOW0YMrBkE7Yb90mC5rxsUYdZzn/T0MwT43UbbmN9tSU2UjRL462PkP9pv 5Z1Ju3uaU915Tvvg4F8ybmg/8vWoAR8kRQPaoQiidppsWVhinkJaQPaGaB5ty/nsD7wOP2 IajGQHWoVf90n7VSSldjTgXDQwm+JtwLIkcJBIs/0lBu2o9Tz3tfHHRTKxG+WJ4Kd0BWl7 CrYS+hrbuIalEX9BWQm53A+USOi1brvR4rG3Bqf590Tx7H1cQneyr5V+5oyNJKt9GCR1R+ ln+yhWmgrZ+mz0mtd07J2BhtrLcKAhl8alL1eKRXUrcwF9P0onKwgoh786Qg0w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 15/12/2021 19:55, FreeBSD User wrote: > It is spooky, if not to say "buggy", if ZFS is capable of freezing the whole box even if > the essential operating system stuff is isolated on a dedicated UFS filesystem. I do not think that this is the case. Commands that do not access anything on ZFS or anything related to ZFS should be unaffected. -- Andriy Gapon