From nobody Wed Dec 15 17:12:25 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E01818E4FF5 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 17:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x12b.google.com (mail-lf1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JDhdJ1zZTz4q4F for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 17:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id bt1so1799035lfb.13 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:12:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8DbaeiKHtUzyE7DzG6zR6tY9jiFV6Q36L3/KFWhNyUU=; b=KhvdpHUuPXbriKP0npmIJYxh4wPHiUU8tM9KQpnDm2WrRJbPRas431EJofIB3XjQ0t JMcIHql+KTYzbKW9OGAU22DbheyOj7IUbzasrmlXEktk86dR/hXeMTPGqB9VkWuKWrPq 1SqTJER84+67ogSeswYlGY1dZPcLLSwpc9891OWrU3LVkWvoZR9LgQQgryxlgK1+ziDV Nm7rb47lCg+FdM5a8wpMqxZOz3yGpeB4UdcjqlYhhOi5GFhC9oKHlpVubxSF1BtjIKti 4fr5Rc3FLcninZBFdSvndcfdPCAMxMjIE84tewc/TwwavPSKe8NLAZFxMATJeL7eC+ic eg5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8DbaeiKHtUzyE7DzG6zR6tY9jiFV6Q36L3/KFWhNyUU=; b=1GEsqazVqNnBz5uwrjHbSOJTkevyVsnMxBcEkJ05dbVLn97MiwmhIrfCzdHABawJGo FL/rP1k+NlbpvhNW/yj+4taNRQmy7cYQ/Ce14/fJJHXOMYtSx64zBZamHzCIAz2JhL32 cusTovrbU8NVkrXBXxdEui3eMivikvbSxoWu3JLiB0PFGNz4CI5c5Jg56zy9JFyW1eej lYWekbbKtCoGsnp6Eb7tgHM5jGnS+94r7YkJsmKYMHuM7ouGhSJvnOBa438lxprgshZu cUzlDCaYFquRCgXkJC+2YWHV19Wu8uf7BZSvR1m6ztLtnD+/iKmhq8GbZd6p0ioztHhQ UV5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532gRkiMUNHHG4wXL45kOJEGW1RmGwStL/r7uVaNlPtmDtAVqdjm OaygdEq2HHTdzD7Jwkv8LvG/l8ynffANXux/WxFiHA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwbx/K4ogzHmSk3E2PBQSCmvpjK1fmupG7K7u5jjK5jXIgrrwtCNspn4kPcgiE/B0LPGia9mCKeGDzy6hjHGko= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:2154:: with SMTP id s20mr10858340lfr.136.1639588354738; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:12:34 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211215162538.99d8d81650af56e2276f2f88@bidouilliste.com> <20211215175202.e1d101079a9c22c9094577f3@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: <20211215175202.e1d101079a9c22c9094577f3@bidouilliste.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:12:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any Cronyx Tau* (ce(4) or cp(4)) users ? To: Emmanuel Vadot , Gleb Smirnoff Cc: Ed Maste , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000076663705d3326941" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JDhdJ1zZTz4q4F X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000076663705d3326941 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:52 AM Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:42:36 -0500 > Ed Maste wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 10:27, Emmanuel Vadot > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've noticed this /sbin/sconfig binary and after looking it's for > > > configuring Cronyx E1 PCI (PCI as in PCI, not PCIe). > > > The products pages ([1], [2]) seems to say that FreeBSD >=7 isn't > > > supported. > > > We currently only build the drivers for i386 (and they contain native > > > compiled code). > > > > > > Anyway, I'd like to remove this from the tree, I really doubt that > > > anyone uses this cards nowadays (or even E1) but just in case I send > > > this mail. > > > > I posted a similar query to -stable in 2020, at > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2020-February/092037.html > > and did not get any response. > > > > I have D23928 for a deprecation notice for ce and cp. Gleb commented > > there that he'd offer to maintain them (and as part of that, removed > > sppp in 6aae3517ed25). > > > > I'm not sure I understand the logic here. > We're keeping drivers for museum grade hardware that no developer have > access to and likely no one uses nowadays just for an hypothetical > situation where someone will try to use those cards on FreeBSD 14 i386 > in 2021 ? > And we're doing that just because the drivers compiles ? > I've cc'd Gleb to see if he can shine some light on this. Warner --00000000000076663705d3326941 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:52 AM Emman= uel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.co= m> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:42:36 -0500
Ed Maste <emaste= @freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 10:27, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> wrote:<= br> > >
> >
> >=C2=A0 Hello all,
> >
> >=C2=A0 I've noticed this /sbin/sconfig binary and after lookin= g it's for
> > configuring Cronyx E1 PCI (PCI as in PCI, not PCIe).
> >=C2=A0 The products pages ([1], [2]) seems to say that FreeBSD >= ;=3D7 isn't
> > supported.
> >=C2=A0 We currently only build the drivers for i386 (and they cont= ain native
> > compiled code).
> >
> >=C2=A0 Anyway, I'd like to remove this from the tree, I really= doubt that
> > anyone uses this cards nowadays (or even E1) but just in case I s= end
> > this mail.
>
> I posted a similar query to -stable in 2020, at
> https://lists.freeb= sd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2020-February/092037.html
> and did not get any response.
>
> I have D23928 for a deprecation notice for ce and cp. Gleb commented > there that he'd offer to maintain them (and as part of that, remov= ed
> sppp in 6aae3517ed25).
>

=C2=A0I'm not sure I understand the logic here.
=C2=A0We're keeping drivers for museum grade hardware that no developer= have
access to and likely no one uses nowadays just for an hypothetical
situation where someone will try to use those cards on FreeBSD 14 i386
in 2021 ?
=C2=A0And we're doing that just because the drivers compiles ?

I've cc'd Gleb to see if he can shine s= ome light on this.

Warner=C2=A0
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