From nobody Sat Dec 11 10:39:48 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED2318D8077 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2021 10:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sodynet1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com (mail-qt1-x831.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JB46G4DLcz4cVN for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2021 10:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sodynet1@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id l8so10767049qtk.6 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2021 02:40:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Gn7os6vLYEhTFnlbTGAssVDz9zMYtLN4jflRyFnqQV4=; b=Yzj0C3dYUDaloZwSsJR6JWCnEbaf2PC7X8/Bo/8UCUgC1t/BsEWDNGsQIhUE9G4qYC X9q3Zw9D9oGp67b+iFb0JtTO/NIxGmlOY4XrbH0MaNCcSVyUCxdQQ2mOPM8jXCGS5dpS GAUX4adqUw4VjwWf4sWDXEf45A2IeZuA70wTV+nN/l1P4Ae4MW3C+Z6PBQfXB0ipAJLC +wZZSR82pJkHH6C+cfcUkQ4CDt1liv9X/HoJRGpJrQEcu/KrA3nmc6Y8ogS+2fGBUcLH PJHh4ptbnf4Sfx2AbiTayvzfHpA6g4M2dtGsPP/IDmGgKVzAacyDnPJ/+fHEdfF/D6O0 Z20A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Gn7os6vLYEhTFnlbTGAssVDz9zMYtLN4jflRyFnqQV4=; b=LYiqiqwb1xrWrDK274QvLl0knHOL1qJqwVM+EjO+aS+b+orsSmaT/y8/RJMCERmTCV 41qPxvzVYyW7C1RZRA695YtLtTLfY1GK37XvTEhsjWNv5wKUHvpPd1Sx8HNMfY/6ReZ4 mNXWmd2soJnJ3/g+pPSKfiJwQi7jFmtrrX/Bm2jRrDNSUfC/TbWFLws54rPOrfoxmObH mgeHuY0mXOV7EuvH+QB5LeJsVRMMpDcOruoFPFFF4I3+flMPQ4u7cfqh1DyB5CbU02n0 gniJT5tdUHym9e+2UeTakQwBnApUaDvMI4KpxZNUBkV8l1Xjz035A0D4WBmAm0U1LlDp Z/Tw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531eZeba3gHgUq3VeUQn0rDC16bQYqfKUw1/wO2mQXBPKOOKBeVk wH2GRTkRLwXrBvTS0qOMN8dVgO4avyouT6nWa+g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxf3NzsX/tk9yyGwJ5WckqwT9nkcDRW5G+PCStf/0Aeymww+QJSZ6pQDs1gsBVrSBApZlwpFVME0BYTA+PdDEk= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5745:: with SMTP id 5mr32453733qtx.85.1639219200348; Sat, 11 Dec 2021 02:40:00 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Sami Halabi Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 12:39:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Benchmarks: FreeBSD 13 vs. NetBSD 9.2 vs. OpenBSD 7 vs. DragonFlyBSD 6 vs. Linux To: "beepc.ch" Cc: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002559c805d2dc7699" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JB46G4DLcz4cVN X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --0000000000002559c805d2dc7699 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I see these claims over and over. So I must ask. Is there any tunibg guide(s) to make the default not conservative in a regrding to several use cases like using as web server? How to Utilize gpu maybe? I know there are few network (aka routing / forwarding) guides.. but maybe instead of that superior feeling "oh they are linuxish and knoe shit" maybe better supply the tuning needed to get better results? And I'm not talking to get an engineer to analyze the tests case.. Maybe the linux defaults fit better for most use cases rather than being conservative?? Just to be clear I almost not used linux and always freebsd for simplicity usage.. but I must say it makes me wonder Sami =D7=91=D7=AA=D7=90=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9A =D7=A9=D7=91=D7=AA, 11 =D7=91=D7=93=D7= =A6=D7=9E=D7=B3 2021, 11:52, =D7=9E=D7=90=D7=AA beepc.ch =E2=80=8F: > > I am surprised to see that the BSD cluster today has much worse > performance > > than Linux. > > What do you think of this? > > "Default" FreeBSD install setting are quite conservative. > The Linux common distros are high tuned, those benchmark is in my > opinion comparison of apples and oranges. > > Comparing "default" FreeBSD install with "default" Slackware install > would be more interesting, because Slackware builds are at most vanilla. > > --0000000000002559c805d2dc7699--