From nobody Fri Dec 03 19:15:46 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5A118ABB9C; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ygy@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J5MxB0VBcz3rgT; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ygy@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-wr1-f53.google.com (mail-wr1-f53.google.com [209.85.221.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: ygy) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0EFCBB93; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ygy@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-wr1-f53.google.com with SMTP id q3so7710855wru.5; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 11:15:57 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533DiO+sA1kZE0gR+gy1oLFnnMnvg5fdM2zo5MkG9LUuBxmx8aqY 8cZKmPTV7IEg5uYF79aHI3kVQkmZ6PwPzml/yE0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxcuY5RjF2fbyZSjjJ++6ZqOya9AMjeGSzDQEbV5xuZgbTRzYppCWNArGtVtIJL+5L0VklfSIxlDZ4eGW1ZtZE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1c2:: with SMTP id t2mr22949768wrx.378.1638558956878; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 11:15:56 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-chat List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86r1attun8.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> In-Reply-To: <86r1attun8.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> From: Guangyuan Yang Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 14:15:46 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Joseph Mingrone] Re: We would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China To: kaik haven Cc: Joseph Mingrone , Xin LI , Li-Wen Hsu , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, lug@ustc.edu.cn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638558958; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=IElY9DnF1QYA97nPj+1v+dYrNlxWkbTEwbE2U/Jk1XE=; b=qKA+flxYZXYsfi4lP/Dk00HOj/MtbbxwSKh8NQVZBF/MD7RAo7h/CDB8jRf+IJ8sPf5vAV j53BunaqlhWWcsFAnzLkLeFu8XBiXHK77qpejb2UUycRg0tjtRM1vtfByO9HhbgThbUh6I 5Hl8ln3ZnLXmJwXoyQhh5IQRPA7WwLAbNXUUTsflsYg6ey/hy3IFVtI9b36/M5CkRszB+3 e2JQv/VHUfoKr7l4v9XY3LTBD3ctd3TXVgYwYJDCJiCdQ7hEg5Qq3VnNVZn1SyaPfDL1Ts fx9XwQUWBO81t0/KcMmrTbEO27TXgMyl9yKJ9qtwwQPQ33mocIZGWaUlVJgaSA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1638558958; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OQvB6Duj0wOO/Q/y0tmFSRzsdZH5SXX27y5RHqtVMwUoZGv2jSdVtR9wm+uk2PNQnNGUrI lLsFuLEBWZJ9wyz1XIF3x58qbr96PJJgi4ZIyV+IMzwlF1yYofpBSvHglm1YxucyUsp5Lx 8mPontZL4GwR1zaeYYK18XDppCq/RS4oKaY2kW2oAsmTqLS1HPcfv1PsRtksI3OpI2I2u2 LBzhKCKlO4Tc1qBmGPnk941ji1uQ0jHFRl6Zp/jSq3axbzYH1BTmETiXda08UiBPSpWaiD t+O6xzOEHyshgONLBINKHdCIEpcPvaWxkWzz5D9lhusZ1D6HwY8xdcdZGiJAjA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Joseph Mingrone =E4=BA=8E2021=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=883=E6=97= =A5=E5=91=A8=E4=BA=94 13:23=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > Hi delphij@ and ygy@, > > I suspect you may have more knowledge on this subject than me. If there > is any chance of hosting a mirror site in mainland China, it would be > great for Chinese users and the Project. I'm told there are big > hurdles, but it may be possible. What do you think? Are you able to > help? Thanks Joe for looping me in - I CC'ed delphij@ (since the last CC was not successful) and lwhsu@ (for further mirror-related questions). > On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 19:07, kaik haven wrote: > > > We call ourselves the "FreeBSD Chinese Community", a team from China, a= nd > > we have been working to get more people to use FreeBSD in China. Of cou= rse, > > we have encountered a lot of problems, such as: Chinese users always ha= ve > > trouble installing FreeBSD on their computers, because there is no offi= cial > > mirror site, and the closest one to mainland China is in Taiwan, and we > > have no way to connect to an official mirror site for policy reasons; > > there is no unified mainland China user group or foundation to > > help mainland FreeBSD users. We have contacted you and the University o= f > > Science and Technology of China LUG has offered to mirror FreeBSD and b= e > > one of the official mirror sites, but in the end, no one cared and it w= ent > > away. I understand the hassle of trying to connect to an official mirror in mainland China. As far as I know, there are a couple of usable unofficial mirrors there (not an advice), including: - https://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/ - https://mirrors.nju.edu.cn/ We also had extensive discussions about having official mirrors in mainland China in the past, however, we have concluded that it is currently not possible due to regulatory reasons - if anything changes, we'd be happy to revisit this. For the maintainers of unofficial mirrors, please feel free to let clusteradm@ know (and CC me) if there is anything we can do to help improve your experience. > > there is no official documentation in Chinese for users to review, and = the > > website for the official Chinese documentation translation project is T= here > > is no official Chinese documentation available to users, and the offici= al > > Chinese documentation translation project website is inaccessible and > > unmanaged This is not true. As jrm@ pointed out, we have an official website and document translation project in Simplified Chinese. Some of the content is outdated, but the project is still active and can be accessed in mainland China: - https://www.freebsd.org/zh-cn/ - https://docs.freebsd.org/zh-cn/books/handbook/ Anyone interested in contributing can simply register and start translating on the following page: - https://translate-dev.freebsd.org/ You can contact me for any further questions related to document translation, I am happy to provide any assistance for current and future contributors. Best, --=20 Guangyuan Yang ygy@FreeBSD.org