Re: "Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4" [really: list interface replacement generates bad textual content]

From: Mark Millard via freebsd-bugs <freebsd-bugs_at_freebsd.org>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 00:03:51 -0700
On 2021-May-17, at 23:55, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2021-May-17, at 23:37, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 18 mai 2021 06:50:03 Mark Millard <marklmi_at_yahoo.com>:
>> 
>>> On 2021-May-15, at 22:22, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 16 mai 2021 05:29:07 Mark Millard <marklmi_at_yahoo.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> In exploring I've seen various web-page presentation of
>>>>> freebsd-bugs messages that seem to be messed up. An
>>>>> example is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> . . .
>>>> 
>>>> Nice catch, I will fix it
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The extra text disappeared when I later looked at the
>>> pages via the URLs.
>>> 
>>> But I've run into another oddity. I did a google
>>> search for:
>>> 
>>> "Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin"
>>> 
>>> and then used the 1st link shown, the one from the text:
>>> 
>>> QUOTE
>>> https://lists.freebsd.org › freebsd-arm › 2019-December
>>> Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin ...
>>> Dec 2, 2019 — Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin Double Shot (A72) for buildworld and via a CPU/cache/RAM tradeoff-exploring ...
>>> END QUOTE
>>> 
>>> which has the link (it is for one of my old messages):
>>> 
>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiPhp3OtdLwAhVH6Z4KHaXQC68QFjAAegQIAxAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fpipermail%2Ffreebsd-arm%2F2019-December%2F020854.html&usg=AOvVaw2VHrNUGc-Vce4CjAmTufxq
>>> 
>>> Or, extracting/converting the relevant part of that text:
>>> 
>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020854.html
>>> 
>>> This now takes me to the wrong message on the list, one titled:
>>> 
>>> Re: 64 bit ARM systems with more than four cores Ed Maste
>>> 
>>> Turns out that the my old message now shows up as 2 later
>>> by number (020854 -> 020856):
>>> 
>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020856.html
>>> 
>>> gets to the message with the correct title.
>>> 
>>> It appears that the numbering has not been preserved
>>> in the conversion. This can make google search results
>>> that point into the (older) freebsd lists
>>> problematical.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ===
>>> Mark Millard
>>> marklmi at yahoo.com
>>> ( dsl-only.net went
>>> away in early 2018-Mar)
>> 
>> 99.9% of the tume the numbering is preserved, sometimes it is not given the weirdness of the things that happened in the past. i will dig into this specific case to see what I can do. But don t expect much here.
>> 
> 
> FYI:
> 
> In my "binary search inspired" looking around everything
> I looked at that was old but more recent than 2014-Dec-23
> had the offset of 2. Everything older than 2014-Dec-10
> worked. Those dates are as close together as I got.
> 
> (Finding things that have useful google search matches in
> a time frame is messy so the results are limited. It
> would be nice to find a better way to looking up old
> references.)
> 
> Example:
> 
> "lsof on FreeBSD/arm" goggle search click through to page
> 
> vs.:
> 
> Tuesday, 23 December 2014
> . . . 
> 	• Re: lsof on FreeBSD/arm Larry Rosenman 
> 	• [Differential] [Commented On] D1317: Build gperf as a dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste) 
> 	• [Differential] [Updated, 8 lines] D1317: Build gperf as a dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste) 
> 
> It gets on to the message for last line (still off by two for the
> number, like what I reported already):
> 
> By contrast:
> 
> "watchdogd not working anymore (since r273154+)" google search click through
> 
> vs.:
> 
> Wednesday, 10 December 2014
> . . .
> 	• Re: RPi - watchdogd not working anymore (since r273154+) Andreas Schwarz 
> 
> worked.

A different possible oddity that I just noticed is that
the old system used UTC dates/times, such as:

Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com 
Sat May 1 19:50:18 UTC 2021

(from freebsd-git).

But the new one uses various time zones (the
senders time zone?), such as:

From: Mark Millard via freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm_at_freebsd.org> 
Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:43:45 -0700

(from freebsd-arm).

===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)
Received on Tue May 18 2021 - 07:03:51 UTC

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