From nobody Mon Dec 13 21:16:31 2021 X-Original-To: bugs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12C418EFD9B for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JCZ7g39YZz3lxT for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DB701BB2F for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 1BDLGVX6070742 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:16:31 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 1BDLGVwF070741 for bugs@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:16:31 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 260399] freebsd-update is just horrible, it fails and fails and WHY? Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:16:31 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: new X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: Unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: somesignup@icloud.com X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_id short_desc product version rep_platform op_sys bug_status bug_severity priority component assigned_to reporter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Bug reports List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-bugs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1639430191; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ERRwl3emwGTL2QY2At+g9dADe4R8E8pYx00xxhY6G8E=; b=T5rfDPLNZNYUtwZIT4m0Sww5Cu2GHejxUjBLkLB9dHHEmfwpC63uA6ggVpWWRhXROthvnZ 7mpe7N40AkQgxR6AvQW+0G+aJi/wPQYPNsAuVZzEwokmHqkhhPG1p0EconrXsLvcQUtp5M /Q+4h2T6zCUQjOO3cJFWh+UOvmpF4hC0vy99LK7C3kD7A573oilEaTbDymju9dABsloRp6 daUYg5B3x/5zrhPfE49AhC1IO6/9xTYxIW+8GQbmqwxZL7aDMxB5p0aRLcxRv1zDb7VhYO /9xUVVtyU69WDlKBsOv1qIc/EcKQGqc9Q9Py8GOWQy1AAB+78gI+HGuc4TGQpw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1639430191; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=U5l4TBIvuMjDy3WS4Guiu3gQxqaD0Wr31T60PnAsV+FDJLc7i/Gfmow+hLsH74BmdXwoEH Jkvy1mzVXfPdVOJ6c5qTncKr54U8fbtnISN4hw75jwLHJcsmttbtA+uF973rGZ04fn8vH8 GTY0QxfxDv1na3XS5hunRSGX+6om7/6lH5Mw1DNSivQ4vtLHo4g6BC5nxepJw7FwsK3u5j 29m7qJdhqdWRxGcHee9/uW0lbhCVe9nQb9KBnJRio/AAg/PpkCKppIQ47pM4syzSPjZ3NX lLcU+DYI3JXK0172VPjMsR7+Jbf/Y9sEh5K0VvbLY/d2LFq49hu2DsYZCOOQVw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D260399 Bug ID: 260399 Summary: freebsd-update is just horrible, it fails and fails and WHY? Product: Base System Version: Unspecified Hardware: Any OS: Any Status: New Severity: Affects Some People Priority: --- Component: bin Assignee: bugs@FreeBSD.org Reporter: somesignup@icloud.com I've just about had it with freebsd-update (and portsnap for much the same reasons). I want to update several machines to 12.3-RELEASE. Fine. I've done this sor= t of thing before, and it's always a total pain. Not because of the process, but because freebsd-update is a horrible terrible nasty piece of work. Snippet 1: Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 1760 patches.... ..1750....1760 done. Snippet 2: Applying patches... done. Fetching 962 files... ....10. ....960. failed. Well I've seen this before, so run it again. Snippet 3: Fetching 921 patches.....10....20 ...920 done. Question: why does this have to download 921 more patches? Has it not alrea= dy downloaded all the patches? What new patches is it downloading? Snippet 4: Fetching 880 files... ..880 failed. Repeat until I am lucky enough to hit the precise nanosecond when this seem= s to work, and it seems to fail often (just like portsnap). I really don't understand the logic of downloading the same patches over and over again when this happens. Are you really trying to tell me that all the patches are in some way corrupted or broken? If yes, I will say prove it! Because I don't believe it.=20 I have never had problems downloading files directly myself using simple http/ftp type clients on any FreeBSD machine. The problem is solely with the truly horrible freebsd-update and its horrible cousin portsnap. These two things (I cannot with any integrity refer to them as 'programs') = are the biggest most horrible and nasty aspects of FreeBSD. They frequently fai= l. Don't try to suggest doing something with portsnap.conf or freebsd-update.c= onf. It's not that. It's these two horrible fail-at-the-drop-of-a-hat programs w= hich should not be in the base system at all. I don't have a problem with patching systems. But these two tools do not be= long in the FreeBSD toolbox.=20 Anyone thinking of replying "they work for me", good for you. But they do frequently fail for people as is shown through bug reports and posts here a= nd there. Seriously, in 2021, how hard is it to download some files reliably? --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=