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Wed, 3 Nov 2021 06:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 10:37:09 +0000 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org References: List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8vbwP0lb2NosTSWu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HkjrZ2VgMz4jKD X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm1 header.b=obHZT9DW; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=ODop5SCr; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net has no SPF policy when checking 66.111.4.25) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.48 / 15.00]; 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I'd say if the criterion was "old" then there are other candidates with far fewer units in circulation with hardware almost (over?) a decade older, like powerpc and powerpcspe. Literally *millions* of the rpi1b+ and its analogues were sold. They are durable boards, and they'll belong mainly to hobbyists. And as you say, they are still being made. 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