Re: Future of armv7

From: Michael Gmelin <grembo_at_freebsd.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 10:28:30 UTC

On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 19:14:31 +0000
void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 11:44:42AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> >Community surveys, show of hands at conferences, mailing list
> >traffic and armv7 package downloads (this is second hand).  
> 
> Hmm. OK. But you'd never have counted my usage for example, and I
> use 3x rpi2b's.
> 
> I've never seen a survey about this and I've never attended a 
> conference. Much of the time if there's an issue I'd 
> search first before posting on freebsd-arm@.
> I think it's reasonable to assume I'm not alone in this.
> 
> And I'd prefer to compile from ports, not use packages because 
> packages have been very stale, and they've been that way for 
> a long time. I think also it's reasonable to assume I'm not
> alone here.
> 
> I mean ultimately the decision to stop supporting
> armv7 can be for any reason, or no reason at all.
> 
> But the counting of "usage" as justification is 
> defective IMO because "usage" cannot be measured 
> with any accuracy at all as far as I can tell with the methods
> you have described.

For me it's similar, but for arm64, which won't go anywhere anytime
soon. I managed to figure out all the issues I had myself (therefore no
mailing list traffic) and I don't use project provided packages as they
are usually behind and essential packages are missing quite often.

-m

-- 
Michael Gmelin