From nobody Fri May 26 09:21:04 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QSKD86JhDz4WSxB for ; Fri, 26 May 2023 09:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterj@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QSKD85XC7z4J89; Fri, 26 May 2023 09:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterj@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1685092872; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+qHV1s9GvqEivNSY5avsl+9qtxJSwsyCl/lDl3KXs54=; b=Y56trYcWc8xY4FgjgKnPX3FuKF459zyE4VT0ki+gfKEwITg4cAf3qXnUaDeEQNWBtP7Ltw 0fG8jBgYsNdwy3WDFQKA/kYdxkuNO3St/8NWi36kIfBpwvmslbtoJNfBYpts2x4qsk3RUQ 2oGNDDVYfbfsyvie7kcQoXleIJD4rDQhec2AN+cLt37X0WpHOrrpsXuyalCTUqIEv03oMd kSWRrq3G35V8/HNBH2TfRpZ3MoSYujPBFPpXFWH/WhNRpfEd9F3hiMFrJar0nZhiANM1TD ikpLeGQYS177nH4MuHqEhZ3gFXLfKYO9ZW1yOTlJ6OT3niq0g5xRm996+ogFlA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1685092872; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+qHV1s9GvqEivNSY5avsl+9qtxJSwsyCl/lDl3KXs54=; b=aDjghDrAs72p2YiB+kepwzTKWdbxSSpY7ye0jYSIJV+aaT7+dJewIPkcvrj9JQauJ/6091 ymkJ8C+4w7CQGPBrvIGyfUPDO3mMcEd1Ol/EDZsM7Y9KTYm/E/UOaMA7r/qh53LkmViVrr YIdBGr58tiIWfXgn7RwBcbyUChepP9YPRyUv09pi5/Z/ayquC4An7idKkQhBG1Gmf3H9OJ MYJmVMH/qW71p1g4QyqGZi4aIo1yG2A+0t/sEhPW+vO2X3eunENlCBtoofGT6hBXSvumXi Bl62qb3CPAdwHRLzPts0ixgbOrmLgJDyjbTBEEYRsPaNv5Yrsn1R1nfPSC4VXA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1685092872; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mJGzY+Og0K/W+UO3HSxtt+CBZ7CUGHNZeygA2xU7yBjCTfmTkdfh9s8gaMgqzmHsp2KwMI 7WG8Y3TTkaJLNVX+vessTTjDG1xdSkiBlbHh7PMREXg02QuDAXQCWdLJRWMw/07J8X4kaZ sxV4A4O7siAFMkZtoYQK4Eeu1Z6tG/mhxa/yCZrBFWV8Ezbx1zFqC7a1iRioW+deGfVOZ/ AYHmhWEk8yOupYpt0GSTRyFNpSBVE/Zlu+3f/OiGS1TmzpzCe/GshJr2YQcGl9Vm6HXr5P W+tjafk1Us9SKkT6j+okuoUOvFvng1B0dDn0b6ZFr0jA/XT9/vSIyWOT0UvaOQ== Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp239-208.static.internode.on.net [59.167.239.208]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: peterj) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4QSKD73l5xzwJx; Fri, 26 May 2023 09:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterj@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 19:21:04 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Tomek CEDRO Cc: Warner Losh , freebsd-arch Subject: Re: Future of 32-bit platforms (including i386) Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pRbE/3WndgeGe6w6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --pRbE/3WndgeGe6w6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2023-May-24 03:49:55 +0200, Tomek CEDRO wrote: >I saw that info too.. but are we going to allow Intel dictate future >of computers and supported platforms to The FreeBSD Project? I don't see that as the FreeBSD Project allowing Intel to dictate its future direction but rather more exidence that chip vendors are also deprecating 32-bit support. >I am >convinced that everyone will move to RISC-V pretty soon anyway :-) Note that FreeBSD doesn't support 32-bit RISC-V --=20 Peter Jeremy --pRbE/3WndgeGe6w6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAmRwefRfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzQbNBAAmtQNxHdq0xpFtlOiJ8oI/D8ikScUH8Tw0k0ipFkdCR8kXgLJDTnBpGbw euTJN5gvPKd7On9qpzYsNDKkPqvgXw0+0SJUye2Wxsi8NSpXuaiEhdNKDTltHP1U 8kh5dGoKaUZ6lkSTUBXpLr07WsXvrQS7b17oUEIan1H2wIxpAlQv9QhUQ1JJowBs c2Hq7ddyWdENkIaBfT2Th4X3K95/rz6sPQD2A/x5OGuu8OgLeabfC22bS9BUsS+W ZbyfcLOwtjreIgMvh/TE8wUsYdbvJiO3w90u+XJ/2mIF5BEu5xmno1zY8G2O0pjF Mjc5GwfEM2Nh8/tLlC5vmIvzd1ZC8OyriziD/GKnivkS3jVw2flBGU9pRxo7/zCX L2+uyjayMhPbUfZoSMGuVf5jV4iGtXWpbBPXpv1ItYUcmfQLbn8yGkqND2JUxjzk +hVZiYevvp5TZZQ2fGcTnAK0Cs87XxAm02Wx7oJl/XnOotWhFcfyOGMI80dhJhOL DIzVIrMR5FCtdVUf3j7NonF5VCECtB6ydzpxJr5bFlHg73epyhGUy6MsoZ2wWI2/ C37jWy3y4VaARe7xJSFifLVEUpc5qCrVpWia+ogIgy4ez8Sx9+9sUwAooHn6TCmU DnqFOvI7EXfF8HniPLE9qtO/boukQI53dcMIzP+2UDcWl98+kPE= =vcJd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pRbE/3WndgeGe6w6--