Re: Dropping firewire support from boot loader

From: Mark Millard <>
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 22:51:48 UTC
On Nov 9, 2022, at 14:42, Mark Millard <> wrote:

> Warner Losh <> wrote on
> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 20:01:41 UTC :
>> I'd like to drop firewire support from the boot loader. It's not been used
>> in quite some time, as far as I can tell. Nor have I (or anybody else)
>> tested it in forever.
>> Is anybody still using it? Does anybody know if it works? Any objections to
>> removing it from FreeBSD 14?
> I would suggest that old PowerMac's might be the most
> likely usage context.
> I no longer have a PowerPC context of any kind. I mostly
> booted from SATA SSD's back when I had access to working
> PowerMacs. I've not been able to remember if I'd tried
> FireWire based booting of FreeBSD or what the status was
> if/when I did.
> I did use the cross machine FireWire means of looking
> into boot crashes, as it could report some console
> output even after the display quit updating for some
> problems I had. (I never had a serial console context
> on any of the old PowerMacs.) I do not remember much
> detail about this use.
> I'm not sure if I can submit to freebsd-ppc any more but
> I'll try for this reply. If it does not show up, you may
> need to send your own message there if you want a message
> about the issue there.

FYI . . .
I'm no longer a member of freebsd-ppc and can not submit
to the list as long as that is the case: the message
bounced back from freebsd-ppc for this reason.

Mark Millard
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