Re: Updating reboot's default

From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 00:35:43 UTC
On Tuesday, 21 June 2022 at  8:01:58 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> 15 or 20 years ago, we talked about changing the default for reboot from
> 'right now' to being safe shutdown. There were arguments made against it
> due to tiny appliances and such.
> Time has past, and this oddity has persisted. It's time to revisit that
> decision.
> I'd propose that we keep 'fastboot' and 'fasthalt' having the immediate
> behavior. However, the 'reboot' command will switch from '-q' behavior to
> '-r' behavior.

Somehow I hear this echo "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".  My
understanding has always been that shutdown(8) is the program that
shuts down and maybe reboots the system, while reboot(8) is a quick
and dirty way to reboot the system, along with halt(8) if you don't
want to reboot.

So why change this?  At the very least you'll confuse people who want
to use the old method.  My guess is that you have some reason that's
not immediately apparent, but what?

And no, I don't really have an axe to grind in this matter.

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