Re: Updating reboot's default
- In reply to: Rodney W. Grimes: "Re: Updating reboot's default"
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:07:41 UTC
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 10:20 AM Rodney W. Grimes < email@example.com> wrote: > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:01 AM Warner Losh <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > > > 15 or 20 years ago, we talked about changing the default for reboot > from > > > 'right now' to being safe shutdown. There were arguments made against > it > > > due to tiny appliances and such. > > > > > > Time has past, and this oddity has persisted. It's time to revisit that > > > decision. > > > > > > I'd propose that we keep 'fastboot' and 'fasthalt' having the immediate > > > behavior. However, the 'reboot' command will switch from '-q' behavior > to > > > '-r' behavior. > > > > > > I'll update the man page, etc to reflect these new defaults. Most of > the > > > systems I've been on in the last 10-15 years have had some flavor of > 'alias > > > reboot reboot -r' in their login scripts and/or made shell scripts > that did > > > this. This will match what everybody else is doing, and will likely > result > > > in less astonishment rather than more, even though it changes a > > > long-standing default behavior. > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > > I slightly misspoke here. I'm proposing we change the default to like > > 'shutodwn -r' not to re-root the system... Sorry for any confusion. > > Retract my prior objection based on reboot -r being a re-root. > > BUTT: > shutdown -r requires an argument of "time" > And what would the time be? > > aka if you alias reboot "shutdown -r", when I type > reboot I'll end up getting a usage error. > This is gona cause some confusion, perhaps you > mean to alias reboot "shutdown -r now"? > Yes. It would signal init to start the shutdown right now. Warner -- > Rod Grimes > email@example.com >