Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root

From: Gary Jennejohn <gljennjohn_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 19:47:50 +0200
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT)
"Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg_at_gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:

> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:34:58AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:  
> > > On 9/22/21 1:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:  
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
> > > > 
> > > > For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be confusing
> > > > as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne shell
> > > > compatible interactive shell: zsh, bash, or variant of ksh.
> > > > 
> > > > Recently our sh(1) has receive update to make it more user friendly in
> > > > interactive mode:
> > > > * command completion (thanks pstef_at_)
> > > > * improvement in the emacs mode, to make it behave by default like other shells
> > > > * improvement in the vi mode (in particular the vi edit to respect $EDITOR)
> > > > * support for history as described by POSIX.
> > > > 
> > > > This makes it a usable shell by default, which is why I would like to propose to
> > > > make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE (not MFCed)
> > > > 
> > > > If no strong arguments has been raised until October 15th, I will make this
> > > > proposal happen.
> > > > 
> > > > Again just in case: THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL TO REMOVE CSH FROM BASE!  
> > > 
> > > I think this is fine.  I would also be fine with either removing 'toor' from the
> > > default password file or just leaving it as-is for POLA.  (I would probably
> > > prefer removing it outright.)  
> > 
> > HardenedBSD recently removed toor. No one has complained (yet?). A
> > small Twitter poll[0] showed that 85% of people who responded do not
> > use toor.  
> 
> A truely disastisified customer does not complain, they simply
> go some place else for there products.  Be carefull in what you
> believe silence to be saying.
> 

I use toor on every FreeBSD machine as the root login using bash.
I never log in as root.

But removing it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.  I'd just put it
back into /etc/passwd.

> > 
> > [0]: https://twitter.com/HardenedBSD/status/1415781911063056389
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Shawn Webb
> > Cofounder / Security Engineer
> > HardenedBSD
> > 
> > https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/raw/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc  
> 
> -- 
> Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes_at_freebsd.org
> 


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Gary Jennejohn
Received on Wed Sep 22 2021 - 17:47:50 UTC

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