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Zeeb" cc: Cy Schubert , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: git: 558d63889623 - main - iwlwififw: remove Intel iwlwifi firmware from src.git In-reply-to: References: <202504101335.53ADZR4T007246@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20250410141606.3BC9031C@slippy.cwsent.com> Comments: In-reply-to "Bjoern A. Zeeb" message dated "Thu, 10 Apr 2025 14:42:54 -0000." 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Zeeb" writes: > On Thu, 10 Apr 2025, Cy Schubert wrote: > > > In message <202504101335.53ADZR4T007246@gitrepo.freebsd.org>, "Bjoern A. > > Zeeb" > > writes: > >> The branch main has been updated by bz: > >> > >> URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=558d638896239f9cd25b9d825ecfc > e62 > >> ec54681e > >> > >> commit 558d638896239f9cd25b9d825ecfce62ec54681e > >> Author: Bjoern A. Zeeb > >> AuthorDate: 2025-04-08 16:57:14 +0000 > >> Commit: Bjoern A. Zeeb > >> CommitDate: 2025-04-10 13:32:49 +0000 > >> > >> iwlwififw: remove Intel iwlwifi firmware from src.git > >> > >> Following the example of rtw88 and rtw89 only ship iwlwifi firmware > >> from ports/packages. Users are asked to run fwget(8) to install the > >> firmware needed for their system or build it from ports > >> (see also UPDATING). > >> > >> This is the end of a long story adding wireless support to fwget(8), > >> migrating the firmware for multiple branches into ports, splitting the > m > >> up into flavors, and updating some install media and the installer to > >> provide firmware. > >> > >> The overall amount for new firmware amongst all drivers would have > >> added more than 100M of binary blobs to src.git for the first import, > >> ignoring future updates which (along with some duplication between > >> multiple drivers) was considered too much. > >> > >> While maintenance within the src tree certainly would have been > >> easier in the longer term this seems to be the better solution and > >> I would like to thank everyone who helped along the path to get there. > >> > >> The iwlwififw.4 man page is to stay (for now) and will likely point > >> at the appropriate firmware package flavor in the future as well > >> so people may find it easier to transition. In the long term this > >> information is likely not needed anymore. > > > > Maybe have the man page mention the port. > > Yes, that's the plan for iwlwififw.4 (plust flavour depending on > chipset/PCI IDs where possible given we do have the information and > create it for fwget(8)). > > The longer term it is a lot easier to tell the user who wants to build > themselves to run fwget -n to get the name of the package/flavour > automatically and not maintain the information twice or thrice anymore. > > > > It's not like we don't use ports for other firmware either, i.e. CPU > > firmware. Ports maintaining firmware are an important part of our ecosystem > . > > iwlwifi(8) just should mention fwget(8) and it does have the reference in > SEE ALSO but unlike rtw88.4 and rtw89.4 it misses the sentence in the > description. > > And I didn't want to mangle the fix, and the re-generation of the lists > for the iwlwififw.4 man pages into this commit. > > The changes are queued here too but need to push some other fixes first. Thank you for all your hard work. > > /bz > > -- > Bjoern A. Zeeb r15:7 -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e^(i*pi)+1=0