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[100.16.219.215]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o24-20020a05620a229800b006ce515196a7sm2616322qkh.8.2022.09.21.14.57.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 17:57:47 -0400 From: Shawn Webb To: Cy Schubert Cc: Gleb Smirnoff , Mike Karels , Brooks Davis , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 24e1824e4646 - main - Deprecate telnet daemon Message-ID: <20220921215747.bpb2irggvq5bibog@mutt-hbsd> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD X-PGP-Key: https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/blob/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc References: <202209211517.28LFHkoJ089471@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20220921163951.17C77AC@slippy.cwsent.com> <8EC34FC3-F299-4B03-AD4E-83D062D0E9F6@karels.net> <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd> <20220921215536.886F9212@slippy.cwsent.com> List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ws67fbj6tkc5bzg3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220921215536.886F9212@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MXsjB03JSz3vYC X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --ws67fbj6tkc5bzg3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:55:36PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd>, Shawn Webb writes: > >=20 > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:11:44PM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > > Mike, > > >=3D20 > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote: > > > M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base. = I > > > M> think the client should remain, though. I use it frequently, alth= ough > > > M> not on the telnet port. ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a > > > M> perfectly reasonable usage. I use it to download FreeBSD images o= ften. > > >=3D20 > > > Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over n= c(1)? > > > > I wonder if it would be worthwhile to hardlink telnet(1) to nc(1). >=20 > No. Though nc -t is supposed to be compatible with telnet, it is not. No= =20 > sense fooling people into thinking nc, even with the -t argument, is the= =20 > same as telnet. It is not and it will be the source of many PRs which wil= l=20 > eventually waste developer's time making nc behave just like telnet does.= =20 > It is better to simply move it to ports for those who absolutely need it. Good points. 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