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Sun, 11 Oct 2026 09:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([187.15.153.28]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d2e1a72fcca58-896c3ccf7cdsm3102801b3a.30.2026.10.11.09.22.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Oct 2026 09:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.700.51.1.3\)) Subject: Re: git: c01c0a27cb82 - main - openssl: make libcrypto export the same symbols as upstream From: "Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya)" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2026 09:21:54 -0700 Cc: Robert Clausecker , Gordon Tetlow , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org, "sjg@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0DD87313-7217-4F7F-8996-17D1906FC3AF@gmail.com> References: <6ac806da.36b2d.5a40f66f@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <6A686A43-F8C3-4E70-AD36-1F0AF9BA0B8B@freebsd.org> To: Konstantin Belousov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.700.51.1.3) X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.50 / 15.00]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20251104]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4864::/56]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4j2m8K0jrSz4D7Z > On Oct 11, 2026, at 2:42=E2=80=AFAM, Konstantin Belousov = wrote: =E2=80=A6 >> Yes: the reason is that we should strive to promise compatibility, = even to our >> own bugs. It doesn't hurt to put these symbols in as compat symbols = (which in >> particular should mean that they won't be accessible by newly = compiled binaries), >> as the routines do in fact exist. >>=20 >> With the next major version of FreeBSD we can then do a somajor bump = and get >> rid of them if desired. >=20 > I fully support both the opinion expressed by Robert, and the proposed > solution. >=20 > In fact, there _is_ the observable consequence of the ABI breakage. > The need to be careful and upgrade libcrypto and libssl simultaneously > is exactly the breakage. Ok, I understand the concern now and agree. Point noted for the future = since I was a reviewer. Gordon: could you readd the symbols to a compat section? Thank you, -Enji PS The whole major/minor SHLIB_NAME/SHLIB_LINK concept isn=E2=80=99t = supported in bsd.lib.mk, but it=E2=80=99s available in = contrib/bmake/mk/lib.mk. I=E2=80=99ll work with sjg@ to introduce that = support and we can work towards removing the symbols and bumping the = SHLIB_VERSION at a later date.=