Re: git: 8271d9b99a3b - main - libsys: remove usage of pthread_once and _once_stub
- In reply to: Jessica Clarke : "Re: git: 8271d9b99a3b - main - libsys: remove usage of pthread_once and _once_stub"
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 04:27:08 UTC
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 01:23:08AM +0000, Jessica Clarke wrote: > On 22 Feb 2024, at 01:11, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 05:23:10PM +0000, Jessica Clarke wrote: > >> On 21 Feb 2024, at 14:17, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 12:51:04AM +0000, Jessica Clarke wrote: > >>>> On 21 Feb 2024, at 00:29, Konstantin Belousov <kib@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The branch main has been updated by kib: > >>>>> > >>>>> URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=8271d9b99a3b98c662ee9a6257a144284b7e1728 > >>>>> > >>>>> commit 8271d9b99a3b98c662ee9a6257a144284b7e1728 > >>>>> Author: Konstantin Belousov <kib@FreeBSD.org> > >>>>> AuthorDate: 2024-02-20 14:45:29 +0000 > >>>>> Commit: Konstantin Belousov <kib@FreeBSD.org> > >>>>> CommitDate: 2024-02-21 00:26:11 +0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> libsys: remove usage of pthread_once and _once_stub > >>>>> > >>>>> that existed in auxv.c, use simple bool gate instead. This leaves a > >>>>> small window if two threads try to call _elf_aux_info(3) simultaneously. > >>>>> The situation is safe because auxv parsing is really idempotent. The > >>>>> parsed data is the same, and we store atomic types (int/long/ptr) so > >>>>> double-init does not matter. > >>>> > >>>> You still need to load acquire and store release aux_once though, > >>>> otherwise you can see aux_once as true yet read the pre-initialised > >>>> data. In practice that’s surely very hard to hit, but the code as > >>>> written is now wrong. Also, idempotence should probably be made > >>>> unnecessary by using 0/1/2 state for uninitialised/initialising/ > >>>> initialised, as it’s still technically UB from a C AM perspective due > >>>> to not being data race free if two threads initialise at the same time. > >>>> Better to just do the correct thing rather than risk things going wrong. > >>> > >>> There is too much to handle 'in process' state for loosing thread, I need > >>> the whole libthr machinery. > >> > >> What do you need libthr for? In pseudo-C: > >> > >> x = load_acquire(&aux_once) > >> if (__predict_true(x == 2)) > >> return; > >> if (x == 1 || !compare_exchange_strong_acquire(&aux_once, &x, 1)) { > >> while (x != 2) { > >> yield(); > >> x = load_acquire(&aux_once) > >> } > >> return; > >> } > >> /* initialise as before */ > >> store_release(&aux_once, 2); > >> > >> I believe that’s all you need. Or compare exchange 0 to 1 as the > >> initial operation; makes the source code shorter at the expense of a > >> more expensive fast path: > >> > >> x = 0; > >> if (__predict_true(!compare_exchange_strong_acquire(&aux_once, &x, 1)) { > >> while (__predict_false(x != 2)) { > >> yield(); > >> x = load_acquire(&aux_once) > >> } > >> return; > >> } > >> /* initialise as before */ > >> store_release(&aux_once, 2); > >> > >> I probably have bugs in the above, but you get the gist. > > The bug in the fragment above is with the yield(). If low-priority thread > > enters the '1' (in progress) block, and then is preempted by high-priority > > thread also entering init_auxv(), the process would never make a progress. > > > > This is why I said that we need libthr (or umtx), to use real locking and > > move the waiting thread off cpu. In kernel, yield can be used in similar > > situations because we can bump the priority, although it is tricky. > > Yes, priority inversion is an issue here. But this is (without all the > C++ abstraction) how libcxxrt implements __cxa_guard_acquire, so if > it’s good enough for C++ constructors for static storage duration > objects declared at local scope, surely it’s also good enough for > aux_once? And if it’s not good enough for aux_once then libcxxrt should > be deemed broken... > > One could easily adapt the above to use UMTX_OP_WAIT/WAKE though. As I noted, umtx(2) should be the solution. Might be we should provide some park/unpark interface in libc, to hide the umtx interface. Its use started to proliferate recently. > > Jess > > >>> I added the fences, thanks for noting. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Jess > >> > >>> WRT being UB from pure C, we already have much more assumptions about > >>> atomicity. > >