From nobody Thu May 11 09:11:20 2023 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QH5jh74G9z49yHx; Thu, 11 May 2023 09:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QH5jh6dX0z3lsq; Thu, 11 May 2023 09:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1683796280; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=YbHmAab6HXpc3/gtzNMtZXXe1MYjJaA0xJLlszQA6w8=; b=QbofvDpXDlopB1CkX7aEezOqACg0LxqDekO32/JMZgAMHROvdY15TH1R1hYZjtttrutZ8X htwwF0Y7ElnOhi0kDHwHw21hN1aP+UZcnCO8aOrwrKXNLnO3mlbz646McFyhylqT9Cw6Hq /hQ/V5YcvZ08GMs3V+q59GPzwWNwwPf5WPaPtC9KRC9oinBmZLHrCbDHN53yM9AVgUo8E2 m4qNpYbccqqx+0Z6vOLK1kkP32T/dZFh75EV+tSaGUZeB55YBeDpyUHIr8hC139nqm7rd+ FuOcEko1G+bc1r+0vH9iMw4eRAVvjBEcMaOnW6wbTSmFtjgawPVFuIkBA8OLhQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1683796280; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=YbHmAab6HXpc3/gtzNMtZXXe1MYjJaA0xJLlszQA6w8=; b=vQddI9n9ex+SdN4k0oQnpe1IuVG9zqOofv+tQPhpFBfs5WIKwRRSFKHZ3nFkxPA5OWG4O1 55cBskyndKn1dh1PVl0cM4G0fQ5+qSXRh/0irZzxon4oOVFvu/V6koNN+5bmhyaxfpKUN7 ms5uR59WUjzFfWJ6U40it4k13uTuvwOz84WK7VeYj8NI75fu3fT+NTBgfmgbz7lzD2dmUv tqBQNE8mLi5EuY7uOPJmi2g7GYIfZeumwmKFmNFqpxR4kG6wajtcwP9o8IU+x6uayH6pLq 9FGpSc81ZDgtD5MjbAkk5jjbJm1pRk7O0jhmvXbPyUF0NHsQMT1E3SFx9e6Iqw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1683796280; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=F+FiKCHgjaO1kDM8/goEeAWIslWVpnqO50pwZVmpJWIEYv+60xMjxfPLtSR/JIE8cNVDWV 3wcqrScF6uG2NX0YVFMnOywgFeAB+xwzlk0FIBkZLMjZ75Xlpu2I+qq61c3f/pZeD+zxd5 ltytAd0poUvruaDWT4zKHIUPcq9Ef4ZjmTdED8ZF3ThVxSMM+5NE0UrIZR4ezJ1UUVL2F1 4j/QT+FXW/b0bP9s8ggmCL9ai0Hqxd9RfIW+IZOHSJngPMmn9/+EUP3v4FfV9ZO5LM0ZQL yMEzX3n2PXZuwwzglwBlyOb/diesepO+wMs/3hFyQoE0jjBJIj70wvGr/8XxTg== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id D6109C891; Thu, 11 May 2023 09:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 09:11:20 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Mike Karels Cc: Cy Schubert , Mitchell Horne , rgrimes@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 36db6b04962a - main - hier(7): document /home/ and /usr/home/ Message-ID: References: <202305101419.34AEJf1x054239@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20230510151313.9E7A6111@slippy.cwsent.com> <4367FD0A-76AC-4E98-A133-E50D8CF841C7@karels.net> List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4367FD0A-76AC-4E98-A133-E50D8CF841C7@karels.net> X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 04:48:12PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote: > ... > I'm sure the kludge was originally done when root and /usr were separate > file systems by default, root was small, and there was no /home by default. I think that's the idea, yes. FWIW, I still partition my drives this way: 2~4GB root with big /usr and /home (the latter lives on separate partition because it's encrypted). For non-encrypted setup, /home does not have to be a separate partition and can be a symlink to `usr/home'. I actually don't find this inconvenient or particularly kludgy. Surely it's nice to be able to encrypt one's data, but it's also nice not having to worry if you'd suddenly get ENOSPC while there's still plenty of room on adjacent partition. > However, we now default to a single large file system (with datasets, in > the ZFS case). ZFS makes it all easier of course, but at its present state is not usable on 13+, so I'm confined to UFS until ZoL guys can fix their sh^code. :( ./danfe