From nobody Thu Dec 07 14:25:23 2023 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SmGlN4ymTz534lC for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x529.google.com (mail-ed1-x529.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::529]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SmGlN4W6Mz4F2Y for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ed1-x529.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-548ce39b101so1352848a12.2 for ; Thu, 07 Dec 2023 06:25:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1701959135; x=1702563935; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sdft3pSqIz5/XRGYMPYbqUArLqqLT/jRDAPUxaXWUKM=; b=sfs23T8SORGciWmq5LpSHfZ6Bpc/Wx7RanrQPPGPgiE8S9M6u7RsqI/4fnUfixNTn+ YIG8elMmEleQmPCJGcNhsXwdXizFniAMlU5cV91ajeURgNinv2J065ElAzGTtg565uEQ cXGjBL+fCDzB1sBUOdzBytHuMgkh3hBnzyT1SR4zpmoynirAUM8QmhWACNulSI/EN5eW NH3fA3LI3ctdeSrHksXFrLIRSK9L+rDB8+0VFBH+43LX3z1Ja1CN/AZmgHfvxVq5L5pN V2Ok9wXShpX2cwM7PNAH9uDAMIsrs1xJ0LxM1uOFT7CR4g42taP9dmxOLLy5VWvHY8+v ED1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701959135; x=1702563935; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=sdft3pSqIz5/XRGYMPYbqUArLqqLT/jRDAPUxaXWUKM=; b=AsjRmE9JRV6yrSk/xKJphEN+6H11T/dJ2hN14CdU7D8TiOpKuyfEZ4CLHCpvAIOvrP sHEfwOfG8AbekRQe2lVgrisYjykXE3u5kRELX4aGfpvoPzTmwBTqpHzyqtSvytVxRp6e U3vC5ry5RfIXCLMm5ZOIW/tJGuXNNUO7bfqYAZOeLBvvp9UdEYbNhcBXOszXsI05irmv 6a758B6VtM0KQn3RTo8QViQnu7srhTpym3wfKFM5Z+6SAxP45toZ6Kg1kYL+DsHP5hmh CzWIXLCsniI0ae42FmyK1cnaxTJoPJ5r2nkahv0kbd3KwnTVTAdPMir2NyP1FyO/7rxI WJug== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzKKdddC6KR28twdk2ZW8FmyZzxCJ2jguN8arS7izWDjr+obMDr M9ZQ3RJbymEtIMJBol9GMWfki8jcAVWjQu2uyi4RZQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFhCbVaRikjVxMNQ1oE88g4BVeVD5l4wFzY/cNzw4l7UxN/Oh2DpInp+KD7ErJ++LoP/k3nNqFYGO4zR1uxmgI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:2691:b0:54d:8e3a:5b2 with SMTP id w17-20020a056402269100b0054d8e3a05b2mr1254363edd.74.1701959135178; Thu, 07 Dec 2023 06:25:35 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202312070550.3B75o8WV066387@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <389AB29C-D5C0-4091-91ED-219F33351B35@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:25:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git: b1c95af45488 - main - rc.conf: correct $ntp_leapfile_sources To: Philip Paeps Cc: src-committers , "" , "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000acc7a7060bec3d76" X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SmGlN4W6Mz4F2Y --000000000000acc7a7060bec3d76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 12:26 AM Philip Paeps wrote: > On 2023-12-07 15:06:58 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 11:34 PM Philip Paeps wrote: > >> On 2023-12-07 14:26:05 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote: > >>> We should point to bipm > >>> https://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/ntp/leap-seconds.list since > >>> they > >>> are > >>> the source of truth, no? > >> > >> I went for the IANA copy because data.iana.org is a much shorter and > >> trustworthy looking URL. And it's also where other operating systems > >> get their copies. > >> > >> (There's a thread on the IANA tz mailing list about how up to date > >> the > >> IANA copy is.) > >> > > > > Shorter URLs aren't necessarily better.. we should have this be a > > list > > though... > > We could also mirror our own copy on freebsd.org, but then we have to > keep it up to date. > > That's probably the best solution. Let me ponder this for a bit. > No. That's a terrible idea. We have better things to do with our infrastructure. Just make a list of two: nist and bipm. Warner Philip > > -- > Philip Paeps > Senior Reality Engineer > Alternative Enterprises > --000000000000acc7a7060bec3d76 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 12:26 AM Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2023-12-07 15:06:58 (+0800), Warner Losh w= rote:
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 11:34 PM Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org&= gt; wrote:
>> On 2023-12-07 14:26:05 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote:
>>> We should point to bipm
>>> https://hpiers.ob= spm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/ntp/leap-seconds.list since
>>> they
>>> are
>>> the source of truth, no?
>>
>> I went for the IANA copy because data.iana.org is a much= shorter and
>> trustworthy looking URL.=C2=A0 And it's also where other opera= ting systems
>> get their copies.
>>
>> (There's a thread on the IANA tz mailing list about how up to = date
>> the
>> IANA copy is.)
>>
>
> Shorter URLs aren't necessarily better..=C2=A0 we should have this= be a
> list
> though...

We could also mirror our own copy on freebsd.org, but then we have = to
keep it up to date.

That's probably the best solution.=C2=A0 Let me ponder this for a bit.<= br>

N= o. That's a terrible idea. We have better things to do with our infrast= ructure.=C2=A0 Just make a list of two: nist and bipm.

Warner

Philip

--
Philip Paeps
Senior Reality Engineer
Alternative Enterprises
--000000000000acc7a7060bec3d76--