Re: git: 8ecb1f814114 - main - Revert "lang/rust: Update to 1.63.0"

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 02:21:28PM +0200, Piotr Kubaj wrote:
> On 22-08-25 14:08:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 10:50:30AM +0000, Piotr Kubaj wrote:
> > > The branch main has been updated by pkubaj:
> > > 
> > > URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/ports/commit/?id=8ecb1f8141144c1603eb4026122d2e60eeaccd64
> > > 
> > > commit 8ecb1f8141144c1603eb4026122d2e60eeaccd64
> > > Author:     Piotr Kubaj <pkubaj@FreeBSD.org>
> > > AuthorDate: 2022-08-25 10:29:24 +0000
> > > Commit:     Piotr Kubaj <pkubaj@FreeBSD.org>
> > > CommitDate: 2022-08-25 10:49:36 +0000
> > > 
> > >     Revert "lang/rust: Update to 1.63.0"
> > >     
> > >     This reverts commit f36cc819accadae1fefc14c203e5fbe9c74e1492.
> > >     
> > >     I asked for an exp-run for powerpc and powerpc64 on a recently provided
> > >     cluster machine but got no reply.
> > >     
> > >     PR:     265915
> > 
> > You cannot take the decision to revert on your own for many reasons:
> > 
> > 1. etiquete: we ask people to actually revert if needed and escalate if they
> > don't, we never revert directly ourself! the only one allowed to do "rude" revert
> > are people taking care of the package building when something break the delivery
> > of packages for Tier 1
> I did it myself so that users don't upgrade in the meantime, since that
> would create further confusion. If I let it wait, then PORTEPOCH should
> have been bumped for all the affected ports, which I think we all agree
> would be troublesome.

No what will happen is given it works on Tier1, the Tier2 will fix one by one
the issues that raised if any without reverting, meaning no PORTEPOCH would be
needed.
> 
> > 
> > 2. an exp-run happened and was granted by portmgr, exp-run are costly we cannot
> > expect exp-runs for non tier 1 architecture for every changes (beside the fact
> > :x
> 
> I do not ask for exp-runs "for every change". In fact, this was the 1st
> time I asked for an exp-run on powerpc*.
> 
> If you can't expect exp-runs on non-Tier 1, why do we have powerpc*
> exp-run machines?

We do not have those machine functionnal! so we cannot do those exp-run, and
even if we had, it will be at the discression of the people doing the exp-run to
see if they have the resources or not to add an extra target for exp-run.
> 
> This also wouldn't have happened if antoine@ had explained earlier he's
> not able to do exp-runs on powerpc*.

While I agree that antoine should have answered (maybe he missed the messages)
it does not mean that you are allowed to make a driven by revert.
> 
> >  
> > 3. powerpc* is not yet a Tier 1 so there is no promise on the delivery of
> > packages.
> 
> Yes, but everyone can still build from ports.

yes but again this is tier 2! same lack of warranty

> > 
> > 
> > So please revert your revert!
> Now I just want to check powerpc64 and powerpc. As soon as I do that, I
> will.

No this is not how this is supposed to work. I would be sad to have to revert
the revert myself :(.

Best regards,
Bapt