Re: git: 1c62cb470260 - main - x11/xlibre: XLibre + X.Org complete distribution metaport

On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 3:27 AM Daniel Engberg <diizzy@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 2025-12-12 02:26, Jose Alonso Cardenas Marquez wrote:
> > The branch main has been updated by acm:
> >
> > URL:
> https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/ports/commit/?id=1c62cb470260075c39418fb0ccc79ec873256f81
> >
> > commit 1c62cb470260075c39418fb0ccc79ec873256f81
> > Author:     b-aaz <b-aazbsd@proton.me>
> > AuthorDate: 2025-12-12 01:25:04 +0000
> > Commit:     Jose Alonso Cardenas Marquez <acm@FreeBSD.org>
> > CommitDate: 2025-12-12 01:26:26 +0000
> >
> >      x11/xlibre: XLibre + X.Org complete distribution metaport
> >
> >      This is a metaport for the XLibre server and XLibre drivers with
> many of the
> >      complementary X.Org packages available in the ports tree.
> >
> >      Reviewed by:    dtxdf acm
> >      Tested by:      dtxdf acm
> >      Obtained from:  https://github.com/b-aaz/xlibre-ports
> > ---
> Hi,
>
> Does this make any practical sense?
> Adoption level is close to none according to repology [1]
>

I don't feel one way or the other, but I do want to point out a few things,
as I've been following along with the XLibre/Xorg drama. Like Daniel said,
adoption level IS low, which makes this whole framework a big gamble. On
the other hand, the fork happened 5 seconds ago, and they've done a massive
amount of work in that time. At this time, GhostBSD is the only Tier 1 BSD
and if we become Tier 1 early we can get a level of upstream support and
attention that we never got with Xorg.

Fedora rejected it, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre


To be fair, that Change Proposal is about replacing Xorg with XLibre, not
about including it as available packages. But it underscores how many
projects XLibre has already alienated when they've barely gotten off the
ground.

Debian also did looking at
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2025/10/msg00000.html


I think it's important to point out here that their objection was based
purely on not wanting to be associated with the XLibre development team, in
particular metux. He has said plenty of things that FreeBSD wouldn't want
to be associated with either, but we have plenty of other software written
by people who say pretty questionable things (some of it in base!). The
XLibre codebase is gaining both momentum and respect, and there's something
to be said for being involved at the ground floor (while they're still
actively engaging with the community and not set in their ways). But if we
publicly engage with him and XLibre, we could strain our relationship with
RedHat. But the drama isn't nearly over; metux is now a guy with a history
of markedly inflammatory comments, a legitimate axe to grind, and a
megaphone.


-- 
Adam Weinberger
adamw@adamw.org // adamw@FreeBSD.org