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TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cperciva@tarsnap.com,01000196300304ff-8439cba8-590b-4dd5-a60e-587289fe3a31-000000@amazonses.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tarsnap.com:+,amazonses.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ZbGKZ6B1cz3XT0 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ On 4/9/25 22:43, Gleb Popov wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 8:29 AM Colin Percival wrote: >> Please stop breaking things. > > So, releng@ team has some scripts they're using which nobody else has > seen and these scripts are using the plain "make install" method to > build a bunch of ports on the host rather than in jail. And we on the > ports@ team should somehow account for that without even having a sort > of CI for ports at all. And then when something breaks for you you're > blaming us. Am I understanding this correctly? No. Release building happens in a clean jail. There's no host contamination. And the code is in src/release. Anything which breaks release building is also going to break ports for plenty of regular users. -- Colin Percival FreeBSD Release Engineering Lead & EC2 platform maintainer Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid