From nobody Tue Jul 05 15:49:17 2022 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15DB1D0A497; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LcnCx5Hlqz4Yq5; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1657036157; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KyKO9aemk5jxhxWzrOef+w9MTOPsyOlihErdha5m7Do=; b=N8c6i7sZfzofWEesNNqTBbBFUkPkW61NGJ4DyG+z2gcDcNLg9Z+X/8U0o316/KFjs0J1An K06M7u0RbH3784Is8DilRvNZJhwWXPjwccXimY7YoUX6cl/FXg6KZ2RfNwt2/3D65mEDva uk3GJmxRH9KM7qF/qwbtS7/XdqTBZN2s3+hYsjuy7fNUe9CxI1ak8aS1WmaPf2itc4gb8V RFCkANzj+ce2YB4hCyDfGheV2qP7mNOqCVduxBVwp/ubG/OFiE8RzVA5sNBOKT+q33J1u5 6tHEzJi+Y5+aQtU5TIMvik/yiWpuqyXh5HPv0pXw/cvSCyUHkR8g6cDx4RjQDg== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id A4F7414866; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:49:17 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Charlie Li Cc: Jochen Neumeister , ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: d128a409234d - main - editors/xed: update to 3.2.4 Message-ID: References: <202207050044.2650iTZn005846@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <9d70934e-2267-998a-e445-0141447bf6c4@freebsd.org> <27f250c0-21ee-1b7b-8d37-708c55c3508f@freebsd.org> <3daf4d2f-bb70-ce8f-3873-75e2445906b7@freebsd.org> List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3daf4d2f-bb70-ce8f-3873-75e2445906b7@freebsd.org> ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1657036157; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KyKO9aemk5jxhxWzrOef+w9MTOPsyOlihErdha5m7Do=; b=iDmtg+K9Npfi3D4MJstjFpOkvdp7b5j7bsGRKcLEhiJjLfaWc1MCL6z/VTM7ocF3O3wndR GdwKR950SR6vzzO5upl7hRM7sSpYvc9ttnBqZqwsyLtknUbnUt/ZVuxx9fX6HNAjBdKtrl QNfB3CDVYMUt553dl0jmDA5Cc/zWXYDo9jAsrgMNLX51VsJub3W713N23wX8V3vJWL5vSA tRZwwF/uLmduoBs/+XelQ3reGh/nPWqVxFuxlxoEObHGIMm4P9QBjKrYKYA+zkvkbnpd4k 3rjs7InGUoV87onSAHg7mYct/AO9ThWkniQEoMMb6umRCpAJ18eZvCacBMsl4Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1657036157; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=vVAXIEuqOKZJXYvTX1SThymO1TobF6cBUiLh/2pikTOpDwD3v24kLsuOYiIAgSdpIEs83g PHaxfh0EuXAyCP4B4y13U/0CZr3MOwIC0unG520rVcQCulTCunjxH4CK7OSYuL6jtyoXI/ NIH66nBIQa9J5LerVwgSVswWARjHe4FyTVYoijfbWrqI/Oj2lTn/XEGFkupsUXtJMirgdF PA3NfyryvkVq08RgoyCHpGpE4uvDuGfkm2CXw1fFt4B+63JQhNVXXgqui3t8pZ46aH3C6r W/kSO0f6Srl7revMSOqGw/SYmLibMLgpvGNleiiIhlyEpNdbb9s9MtnYT1wZpA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 10:20:54AM -0400, Charlie Li wrote: > Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > The Ports Tree is a collective work, an iterative, ongoing development. > > Various people bring their bits here and there, some of those people lay > > the first stone, and had the right to mark it as such. Even if someone > > decides to replace their work later on, the stone stays still. But then > > again: we don't just throw away prior work and replace it with our own; > > this is rude, disrespectful to previous contributors, and could easily > > turn people from making new ports. > > As a non-committer back then, actions like yours that completely ignored > prior (by years) art that was worked on in an official project workspace I did not *ignore* anything, Charlie, and find your rhetoric unjust. :( While I usually grep Bugzilla for new ports I want to commit (and when I find one, I'd use it and give proper attribution), I could not keep track of every external repo and the work that's happening there. Again, it was a small library and three *leaf* ports. Nothing infrastructural, or affecting two thirds of the tree, or unfixable with a small patch. I don't see how these four ports could not be integrated in your big WIP Cinnamon tree (at any time). > certainly deterred me from continuing to contribute to the "collective > work" for a bit. These feelings of deterrence will not necessarily get > verbalised, especially not in the moment. Okay, maybe not in the moment, but the question still stands: if someone commits something faster than you, and this gives you that feeling of deterrence from continuing to contribute -- how shall we all work together then? You'd keep a list of things you plan to port and ask people to stay out of this domain for indefinite period of time? ./danfe