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To: FreeBSD CURRENT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[google.com:s=arc-20240605:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.873]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.77)[0.769]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[asomers]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.218.44:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.218.44:from]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fjFB439YNz41xt X-Spamd-Bar: - I just discovered Blackship, a new jail manager. It looks to have been AI-coded in a short period of time last December. Ironic, since the author's blog is full of anti-AI posts. I haven't tried it. But from looking at the docs and the code, I can see that the feature set is impressive. The test suite, however, is clearly an afterthought. In particular, I see zero tests that verify blackship runs (or would run) correct ZFS commands, jail IOCTLs, etc. The author is named Abdelkader Boudih , and he has several freebsd-src commits since this January. This tool isn't yet in the ports tree. https://github.com/seuros/blackship https://www.seuros.com/