From nobody Fri Jan 02 08:10:21 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4djGb30phYz6MX5j for ; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 08:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R12" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4djGb30Jr6z4DZF; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 08:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1767341423; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=0rNhUTTTAJDh0nTGNPZuJtCLSVRS3+RCbwqZA4SN3Ks=; b=ipRpUMCeN+6XwxPC1tyRBNQgyi2YC0aT/V0wjVzhy9cWSf5Jp0sKL2+H9etI4IHYdr0nxD ilRmZjgSduVOTbHUM+parg8Ju5Ggkr5rP0UbS6gRJZyJJq91xTBNCy4dsNii8/5GTuDPgM YYX5bZSpQNZNEY25GLNH/PELKbJFwwVF6mGTaDVjCGzQ0L8zG4qPWVKs8PqvWFlMmZo0rK t84WzlDMI1pORaniX+BKOIrpoFgMBNPpDpYdhMRRNirkbIDWb9DAw7255tKohMuzsx35CL FX+96Oh35Iv875fqsJEHZ+eugqduEsDLwot31tl9lUzpVG2WVrZpW3wLtO0fww== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1767341423; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=0rNhUTTTAJDh0nTGNPZuJtCLSVRS3+RCbwqZA4SN3Ks=; b=LHidMyl1c6hMWvCkBWnpduIDkyASHUHhU1A9O+DY5CJGPeR1258zLabpyLcKUWYsM3nIuN qjxHY/VAgT1iPzaMfqv8SEQ6lVojAuULArdsUR3SbyPa2SIorHlUmYT1F6kM9V3ks0/EeR DEFxZVTH+VdrIPYT/IuuN1n7L//yUpBW8MPeFrmOUM1je5ZK/ZLJbkFekDQT+JqAOsoIKR LelNj4ZexJElWeg0I/FWqtjzqvh7B7/9VWiO0iBMJoc7wo3366vNjNWswvgkWN9yz/7q5W UdO89Sd+qlEAEIFDy5T+GMJ/tTHjLF/lsc5BESGqCaU59Ht54g/l8Tc0WmBC0g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1767341423; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=A+JY3gu3dwdD1mrePRCx05uO/CVFTl5m9DkFFS3WaHwi19G/6EoQW5UDOatu3k4vtpUb8+ gBuSVx2HukLYOlOaCMkc80KVPQ7eNFFBFpClSYM28PBxB5WIPkKSelyNMCmqLyxSjIYnC9 s2f+i81HlWf5qIM/dmEYnvCyqag2MQCAbCVcKYv21oDCNzRcSTL7ljiSTOqoxfzipqKK/W aVAUBYGY5o/3t/g35j1ogjPD+x9pQDedSD1SMsG3buaIsyWnTDkeZIl4WKccI1UayBAA5N XuBkJOHtcgXZJlUi+wDn+3+A7fVvjLSvk/93EIG5aIycEHBnUAdtn71qRf5vXQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ltc.des.dev (2a01cb0585090500922e16fffef1acef.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr [IPv6:2a01:cb05:8509:500:922e:16ff:fef1:acef]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4djGb25vhvzNbh; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 08:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4CFF2F3F1A; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 09:10:21 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Simon J. Gerraty" Cc: Mark Millard , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: How do WITH_DEPEND_CLEANUP= and WITH_META_MODE= interact? To get the old WITH_META_MODE= behavior, is WITHOUT_DEPEND_CLEANUP= needed? In-Reply-To: <23.1767296340@kaos.jnpr.net> (Simon J. Gerraty's message of "Thu, 1 Jan 2026 11:39:00 -0800") References: <2C79022B-6F51-4E67-808E-206C55627D82.ref@yahoo.com> <2C79022B-6F51-4E67-808E-206C55627D82@yahoo.com> <23.1767296340@kaos.jnpr.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2026 09:10:21 +0100 Message-ID: <86y0mgjuz6.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Simon J. Gerraty" writes: > Mark Millard writes: > > How do WITH_DEPEND_CLEANUP=3D and WITH_META_MODE=3D interact? > Probably not well. They interact just fine. > > Do I need to set > > WITHOUT_DEPEND_CLEANUP=3D to have META_MODE=3D work as it used to? > My guess would be yes. That's not a guess, that's a knee-jerk reaction to something new that you don't understand and didn't bother to research. > It appears that MK_DEPEND_CLEANUP=3Dyes is an attempt to compensate for > MK_META_MODE=3Dno Not in the least. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org