From nobody Tue Sep 02 02:43:00 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cG95f2KYBz66BNb for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2025 02:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@sonicboom.org) Received: from sheehan.sonicboom.org (sheehan.sonicboom.org [50.190.118.82]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cG95f09q0z3JjQ; Tue, 02 Sep 2025 02:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@sonicboom.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [192.168.4.22] (unknown [50.190.118.81]) by sheehan.sonicboom.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18F8E3A00198; Mon, 1 Sep 2025 20:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 20:43:00 -0600 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: buildworld in current vs stable/14 To: Dimitry Andric Cc: current@freebsd.org References: <4f206fc8-45c8-4cdd-8a1f-2c9a48aa1063@sonicboom.org> <8B6762EE-E309-438E-915F-7863706020CD@FreeBSD.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Brian In-Reply-To: <8B6762EE-E309-438E-915F-7863706020CD@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:50.128.0.0/9, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cG95f09q0z3JjQ This was correct. I saw the notes in the UPDATING file, which I usually don't look at unless something fails :) Thanx Brian On 9/1/2025 5:24 PM, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 1 Sep 2025, at 23:28, Brian wrote: >> I am not sure when this changed, but I often test building the system just to do it, often with ccache. What I am seeing is that in 14.x systems, ccache shows a total number of ccache hits and misses in the low 40k range, whereas in 15 it is much less, often 2-3k. Of course the build moves more quickly. Is this tech to only build what is related to code changes? > This is probably because 15-CURRENT uses WITHOUT_CLEAN by default, since 2025-08-19 at least. On 14.x, this is not the case. You might find that there is less difference between the two, if you put WITHOUT_CLEAN in your src.conf. > > -Dimitry >