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Message-Id: <7BC65005-A658-4A0F-A124-E51A9851EA42@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 10:23:01 -0700 To: tschweikle@gmail.com, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= , FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <7BC65005-A658-4A0F-A124-E51A9851EA42.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.83:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.83:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cwxzT2Dpnz3FW5 Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote on Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 12:35:28 UTC : > Thomas Schweikle writes: > > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav writes: > > > Thomas Schweikle writes: > > > > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav writes: > > > > > How was this system installed? > > > > By compiling 15-STABLE from latest available 14.3 getting = sources via=20 > > > How did you install 14.3? > > Same way. It was Upgraded from 13-STABLE. And this was upgraded from > > 12-STABLE. If I remember it right, the system installed from > > disquettes was 5.0-RELEASE some way back in time ... >=20 > Do you understand the difference between the words =E2=80=9Cinstall=E2=80= =9D and > =E2=80=9Cupgrade=E2=80=9D? Just to defend Thomas's use/interpretation of terminology for the context that he specified up front: source based. QUOTE of dropped material from the original message: . . . make buildworld KERNCONF=3DFBSD15 make kernel KERNCONF=3DFBSD15 make installkernel KERNCONF=3DFBSD15 reboot etcupdate -p -> fails make installworld KERNCONF=3DFBSD15 etcupdate -B -> fails . . . END QUOTE So the "upgrade" to 15-STABLE involved 2 "install" operations for this source-based context. That illustrates that, for this sort of context, FreeBSD does not well maintain an upgrade vs. install terminological distinction. > What did you use prior to etcupdate? When was /etc last updated? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com