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Subject: Re: openat("./...", O_CREAT) fails even though the directory exists
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 11:15:47 -0700
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> On Oct 13, 2025, at 11:06=E2=80=AFAM, Adrian Chadd =
<adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> ...
>=20
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 at 03:23, Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org =
<mailto:ivy@freebsd.org>> wrote:
>> Olivier Certner wrote in <6142242.Zv9zXsTiuT@ravel>:
>> > > i suspect the fix will be in pkgbase somewhere: for example, we
>> > > could restart sendmail on upgrade, or tell the user to do that.
>> >=20
>> > Most probably it will need too, yes.
>>=20
>> proposed fix at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D53061.  i really don't =
like
>> this (nothing else restarts services on upgrade) but this is probably =
the
>> least disruptive solution for users.
>=20
> I'm curious - why are we NOT restarting services after an upgraded =
package?

I mean, I've seen freebsd-update restart sshd regularly.  There's =
precedent for this.  As a regular user, this wouldn't break my =
expectations if there was a good reason.

-Dan


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<html aria-label=3D"message body"><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" =
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id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Oct 13, 2025, at 11:06=E2=80=AFAM, Adrian Chadd =
&lt;adrian@freebsd.org&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">...</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote =
gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 13 =
Oct 2025 at 03:23, Lexi Winter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ivy@freebsd.org">ivy@freebsd.org</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Olivier Certner wrote in =
&lt;6142242.Zv9zXsTiuT@ravel&gt;:<br>
&gt; &gt; i suspect the fix will be in pkgbase somewhere: for example, =
we<br>
&gt; &gt; could restart sendmail on upgrade, or tell the user to do =
that.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Most probably it will need too, yes.<br>
<br>
proposed fix at <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D53061" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D53061</a>.&nbsp; i really =
don't like<br>
this (nothing else restarts services on upgrade) but this is probably =
the<br>
least disruptive solution for =
users.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm curious - why are we NOT =
restarting services after an upgraded =
package?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>I mean, I've =
seen freebsd-update restart sshd regularly. &nbsp;There's precedent for =
this. &nbsp;As a regular user, this wouldn't break my expectations if =
there was a good =
reason.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dan</div><br></body></html>=

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