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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.78 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.984]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl:s=plan-b-mailer]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[plan-b.pwste.edu.pl:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dDBlH4D9Xz3hV8 W dniu 22.11.2025 o 10:09, Tomoaki AOKI pisze: > I don't think disallowing de-pkgbasifying is a good idea. > IIRC/IIUC, legacy distribution sets goes away on 16.0, at least from > dvd1 image. +1 Dear Subscribers of the FreeBSD-CURRENT list, since a longer while using central build server and make install{kernel,world} over NFS is  probably the most efficient ways to keep FreeBSD up to date. We have had this privilege since the very beginning. Introducing freebsd-update(8) was a good step forward and made system maintenance easier for newcomers and for people with limited time or resources. The transition to pkgbase is another positive development, and one that will certainly be appreciated by the community. Switching from RELEASE to STABLE has always been possible. Why should pkgbase be an exception in this regard? While delivering a limited or trimmed-down OS with pkgbase is certainly possible, the same is true when installing from source. In fact, upgrading the world and kernel over NFS is often even faster and less resource consuming than using pkgbase. It would be a great loss for the community if this old, seamless, and proven-to-work method were ever deprecated in favour of pkgbase. Cheers -- Marek Zarychta