From nobody Fri May 16 21:48:32 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Zzggm1t1fz5wNkj for ; Fri, 16 May 2025 21:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Zzggm1Lb7z3NvC; Fri, 16 May 2025 21:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1747432116; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=52SvGU7ZSeAWaLzp5sX9jydjjl1Hlr8VQplzEDyv2JA=; b=V9E34yyAB7xanNZ9G5PIiIx/rsnA2ohLBjXuZ5jL/Woe4RO3hqDdRgbYQXzx0C5Nd04tKr YwejIuqRDCGB999wzbCEPEzT2/MoGGn9Yhfl7wF3lVtjkY0E3VscEYr3a1u7+JcimTkp7/ R0RymCSvA93zTNvo5vBvEqE+swDSAVe2oZk1LuW6z3M/Z/t8Kqg250Xi+ClnMHGAjtblO8 RcYxZ81VtPY5T4PvPXzh0sPyeRUjhsVq3L1zYau++CKCg4Zp/bgidvzxvhUYXIBB3RnfP2 1zI+yCakfupqtNx4kN20oqJeL1RWI9lvQm2SZ5SH1clZNANikmL0bEeFc44gcw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1747432116; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=52SvGU7ZSeAWaLzp5sX9jydjjl1Hlr8VQplzEDyv2JA=; b=gY88gNImeVBPqy+QaWFIpQJeOD04+ZCBvP7UfMCVR0FEDsyUWR4rjWbdi9ICCbidSf+1Zw sYJteFozpf0+cS7FZMLjFvph41LaeO+s1QtIXXZn1THPQqVm++k9mRh47uIbMeg/epV7cC sdLj8nLvCn9UDUWbld0rk+z4X5GEGUw4zscjs5lnrgy5An5jRsf5en5K3qTRYuzGB8/3YZ WGWyie4Uiw7qFRXIGkNK/zYIrqYCspSac1VviE0uttI+fxU34eNBXBRI2Apk7b6UpdKLYS dhUx+kEknnSgHaGN8B2X717WZDZjs2f/Zp/SE6WYwIbiT9GLcUgiC747fBpsHA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1747432116; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=t6/TEOH4xOxdnA+nTUc+dglawW+XDgpHANGr2b77gdsRlGT0npdjg9wuP5YaxadKoNO4wN 8KNFvKMLgvTXyuKO4JDNS1Clpz+BDhOFy8nwFQKEX4H+1o+/8DnwHh2EW50yHaMKFYygzU MiTQ+dbmCZIWfDdVLDktFNblembBCtTfv9AXKFt39BrIxrYxx+K+b9ZIaX1h697OppGltA psQQNHqAB/wpCIIUwF37dNdGJCE6Q1NQX02kCtzcCTTpPjnXRxW/HAenlMq/of6/8uLlyg w5UhjJxkm5OEZqWuUgNixfZ9kjITEa7wZ775IlKTg7dp4THAFK4Cf0rLilgovA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ragweed.eden.le-fay.org (ragweed.eden.le-fay.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:aab5:c401:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ivy/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Zzggl4cl3z15bh; Fri, 16 May 2025 21:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 22:48:32 +0100 From: Lexi Winter To: Marek Zarychta Cc: Kristof Provost , Cy Schubert , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: epair(4) Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Marek Zarychta , Kristof Provost , Cy Schubert , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20250515162552.9209B20E@slippy.cwsent.com> <20250515185919.87008219@slippy.cwsent.com> <45d0f49d-229b-46b4-af95-6e8c4c856661@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <2D38F889-E8C9-49A9-AA80-D5A46FDFFD02@FreeBSD.org> <6e33a247-4b2a-4f7c-8e1f-14a549db27cd@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GtnMzaVTecG6tfMQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6e33a247-4b2a-4f7c-8e1f-14a549db27cd@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> --GtnMzaVTecG6tfMQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Marek Zarychta: > Thanks for the statement. Some may consider this a POLA violation. If you > insist on removing the sysctl, it will require additional work to update all > existing vm-bhyve and jail setups before upgrading to 16.0-RELEASE, whenever > it is released. i appreciate your concern and i am happy to work with affected users on a solution to this that reduces POLA for 15.0-RELEASE but let's be clear that this is not "all" vm-bhyve and jail setups. it is only setups which are mis-configured in a very specific way which has been deprecated in the Handbook for (as far as i know) a long time. are you happy with the change i proposed to ifconfig(8) in another message? --GtnMzaVTecG6tfMQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaCeysAAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YK8MAP41AWDHxyUH6XXnidTSTeVl5Aawfojp3nkpr0wQ0oxydAD/QK2SnBO6Qwoh S21UKcPNDEyy+UE+pXFy6+2Qq+ZCmAw= =zG0Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GtnMzaVTecG6tfMQ--